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We use snow plows up here in Canada.

by Fricken 6y ago

sokoloff 6y ago
On the bike paths as well? That's very progressive of Canada. We don't do that effectively here in Massachusetts.
- Fricken 6y ago
  On the bike paths as well, yes. In my home city of Edmonton they are a priority. According HN I don't ride year round in Edmonton, it's impossible.
Aerroon 6y ago
That's great for the hour after the snowplow passes, but what about after that? Snow + ice on a bike is a pretty easy crash. Even a slow speed crash on a bike can break bones, unlike cars.
- rhys91 6y ago
  There's a level of risk associated with the activity, there's no denying that. Risk mitigation factors can be applied to reduce the risk to a palatable level for a lot of people. Snow tyres, riding slowly, using lights in low light etc. The opportunity is to convince more people that cycling is a legitimate option for a large group of people. Infrastructure investment instills confidence and further education for both cyclists and drivers help to manage that risk. Whilst cycling in the snow might not be your cup of tea, there's a cohort of people who could consider it as a net positive to get from A to B, exercise and put less wear into the road. And we need to support those people.
- mijamo 6y ago
  Snowplows don't remove all the snow usually because it would damage the road a lot, so you are left with packed snow which is fine to ride on. You can also use studs tires if you worry. I ride my bike in Sweden frequently even with a lot of snow without trouble. The only thing to worry about is when spring comes and the snow melts by day and freezes at night but on the main bicycle lanes the problem is solved by salting them once the weather gets mild. I use a regular gravel bike (so not huge tires, 38mm) without stubs tires. Never fell. I just don't ride during snowstorms directly of course but in those cases even buses and trains can be canceled until it calms down a bit.
  - carlhjerpe 6y ago
    As a fellow swede I don't think your argument holds against the real argument they're not mentioning. People want to ride cars because they're lazy and they don't want to experience the elements, but since it's shameful to admit they'll come up with any other excuse to sit in their car, drink soft drinks, eat junk food and listen to the radio with perfectly controlled climate surrounding them. I bought myself a Xiaomi scooter and wear a good jacket while listen to music through my Sony overears riding to work. I'll have to wait with the soft drink and junk food til I arrive though. I also wear a backpack to carry whatever.

We use snow plows up here in Canada.

sokoloff 6y ago

On the bike paths as well? That's very progressive of Canada. We don't do that effectively here in Massachusetts.

Fricken 6y ago
On the bike paths as well, yes. In my home city of Edmonton they are a priority. According HN I don't ride year round in Edmonton, it's impossible.

Aerroon 6y ago

That's great for the hour after the snowplow passes, but what about after that? Snow + ice on a bike is a pretty easy crash. Even a slow speed crash on a bike can break bones, unlike cars.

rhys91 6y ago
There's a level of risk associated with the activity, there's no denying that. Risk mitigation factors can be applied to reduce the risk to a palatable level for a lot of people. Snow tyres, riding slowly, using lights in low light etc. The opportunity is to convince more people that cycling is a legitimate option for a large group of people. Infrastructure investment instills confidence and further education for both cyclists and drivers help to manage that risk. Whilst cycling in the snow might not be your cup of tea, there's a cohort of people who could consider it as a net positive to get from A to B, exercise and put less wear into the road. And we need to support those people.
mijamo 6y ago
Snowplows don't remove all the snow usually because it would damage the road a lot, so you are left with packed snow which is fine to ride on. You can also use studs tires if you worry. I ride my bike in Sweden frequently even with a lot of snow without trouble. The only thing to worry about is when spring comes and the snow melts by day and freezes at night but on the main bicycle lanes the problem is solved by salting them once the weather gets mild. I use a regular gravel bike (so not huge tires, 38mm) without stubs tires. Never fell. I just don't ride during snowstorms directly of course but in those cases even buses and trains can be canceled until it calms down a bit.
- carlhjerpe 6y ago
  As a fellow swede I don't think your argument holds against the real argument they're not mentioning. People want to ride cars because they're lazy and they don't want to experience the elements, but since it's shameful to admit they'll come up with any other excuse to sit in their car, drink soft drinks, eat junk food and listen to the radio with perfectly controlled climate surrounding them. I bought myself a Xiaomi scooter and wear a good jacket while listen to music through my Sony overears riding to work. I'll have to wait with the soft drink and junk food til I arrive though. I also wear a backpack to carry whatever.