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Put on a coat/rain jacket

by umvi 6y ago

sokoloff 6y ago
For cold or rain? Sure. For 4-6" of snow, you're going to need a lot more than a jacket to cycle in that.
- Fricken 6y ago
  We use snow plows up here in Canada.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    On the bike paths as well? That's very progressive of Canada. We don't do that effectively here in Massachusetts.
    - Fricken 6y ago
      On the bike paths as well, yes. In my home city of Edmonton they are a priority. According HN I don't ride year round in Edmonton, it's impossible.
  - Aerroon 6y ago
    That's great for the hour after the snowplow passes, but what about after that? Snow + ice on a bike is a pretty easy crash. Even a slow speed crash on a bike can break bones, unlike cars.
    - rhys91 6y ago
      There's a level of risk associated with the activity, there's no denying that. Risk mitigation factors can be applied to reduce the risk to a palatable level for a lot of people. Snow tyres, riding slowly, using lights in low light etc. The opportunity is to convince more people that cycling is a legitimate option for a large group of people. Infrastructure investment instills confidence and further education for both cyclists and drivers help to manage that risk. Whilst cycling in the snow might not be your cup of tea, there's a cohort of people who could consider it as a net positive to get from A to B, exercise and put less wear into the road. And we need to support those people.
    - mijamo 6y ago
      Snowplows don't remove all the snow usually because it would damage the road a lot, so you are left with packed snow which is fine to ride on. You can also use studs tires if you worry. I ride my bike in Sweden frequently even with a lot of snow without trouble. The only thing to worry about is when spring comes and the snow melts by day and freezes at night but on the main bicycle lanes the problem is solved by salting them once the weather gets mild. I use a regular gravel bike (so not huge tires, 38mm) without stubs tires. Never fell. I just don't ride during snowstorms directly of course but in those cases even buses and trains can be canceled until it calms down a bit.
      - carlhjerpe 6y ago
        As a fellow swede I don't think your argument holds against the real argument they're not mentioning. People want to ride cars because they're lazy and they don't want to experience the elements, but since it's shameful to admit they'll come up with any other excuse to sit in their car, drink soft drinks, eat junk food and listen to the radio with perfectly controlled climate surrounding them. I bought myself a Xiaomi scooter and wear a good jacket while listen to music through my Sony overears riding to work. I'll have to wait with the soft drink and junk food til I arrive though. I also wear a backpack to carry whatever.
- germinalphrase 6y ago
  Chiming in from Minneapolis, major bike paths/routes are generally plowed just as often as the roads. It can be a hurdle, but it’s not as bad as you might think.
- onnimonni 6y ago
  We used trucks with snow plows constantly in Finland too when it snows. The city where I'm from is called Tampere. I thought that the city used to be quite hostile towards bicycles ten years ago but since then they have built so many new biking lanes or removed lanes for the cars and replaced them for pedestrians and cycles. It was just faster to go everywhere with bicycle and with bicyclr6you don't need to spend time to search for a free parking place. If it rained a lot I used rain jacket or used the public transportation. In the winter we used tires with spikes in them (to battle the slippery ice). Removing some lanes makes the city much more enjoyable for everyone but ofc this is harder to do in really old cities which were designed for horses or big metropolitan areas wherr extra land is scarce. We moved to Tallinn, Estonia last year and compared to Finland the cycle lanes here are poorly designed and many local politicians still support cars over cycles which is a sad.
temp8964 6y ago
Jacket might be ok for small rain, but for heavy rain and thunderstorm? No. Employers expect employees to come to work every business day, and people expect business to open every business day, even under heavy rain and thunderstorm. Watch! Heavy rain/wind! Most people can't go to work! Most businesses are closed! Teachers can't go to schools! Nurses can't go to clinics and hospitals! What a ridiculous picture of a modern city. New proposal: this city only allows residents who are 20s/30s years old and healthy and fit.
- cuu508 6y ago
  "There is no bad weather, only inappropriate clothing." :-) If the existing materials are not good enough, perhaps we can invent more waterproof, windproof, breathable, warmer, cheaper etc. materials
  - temp8964 6y ago
    I realized there is an easier solution: the whole city is a huge building, everyone lives and works inside. And you get time to go out once a while. ^_^.
  - msla 6y ago
    > "There is no bad weather, only inappropriate clothing." :-) Say that in a whiteout blizzard.
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  I'm almost 60. I'm not a jock. I bike everywhere. Try again.
  - temp8964 6y ago
    You read my whole comment right? The context is in heavy rain / wind. Do you do that too?
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Put on a coat/rain jacket

by umvi 6y ago

Put on a coat/rain jacket

sokoloff 6y ago

For cold or rain? Sure. For 4-6" of snow, you're going to need a lot more than a jacket to cycle in that.

Fricken 6y ago
We use snow plows up here in Canada.
- sokoloff 6y ago
  On the bike paths as well? That's very progressive of Canada. We don't do that effectively here in Massachusetts.
  - Fricken 6y ago
    On the bike paths as well, yes. In my home city of Edmonton they are a priority. According HN I don't ride year round in Edmonton, it's impossible.
- Aerroon 6y ago
  That's great for the hour after the snowplow passes, but what about after that? Snow + ice on a bike is a pretty easy crash. Even a slow speed crash on a bike can break bones, unlike cars.
  - rhys91 6y ago
    There's a level of risk associated with the activity, there's no denying that. Risk mitigation factors can be applied to reduce the risk to a palatable level for a lot of people. Snow tyres, riding slowly, using lights in low light etc. The opportunity is to convince more people that cycling is a legitimate option for a large group of people. Infrastructure investment instills confidence and further education for both cyclists and drivers help to manage that risk. Whilst cycling in the snow might not be your cup of tea, there's a cohort of people who could consider it as a net positive to get from A to B, exercise and put less wear into the road. And we need to support those people.
  - mijamo 6y ago
    Snowplows don't remove all the snow usually because it would damage the road a lot, so you are left with packed snow which is fine to ride on. You can also use studs tires if you worry. I ride my bike in Sweden frequently even with a lot of snow without trouble. The only thing to worry about is when spring comes and the snow melts by day and freezes at night but on the main bicycle lanes the problem is solved by salting them once the weather gets mild. I use a regular gravel bike (so not huge tires, 38mm) without stubs tires. Never fell. I just don't ride during snowstorms directly of course but in those cases even buses and trains can be canceled until it calms down a bit.
    - carlhjerpe 6y ago
      As a fellow swede I don't think your argument holds against the real argument they're not mentioning. People want to ride cars because they're lazy and they don't want to experience the elements, but since it's shameful to admit they'll come up with any other excuse to sit in their car, drink soft drinks, eat junk food and listen to the radio with perfectly controlled climate surrounding them. I bought myself a Xiaomi scooter and wear a good jacket while listen to music through my Sony overears riding to work. I'll have to wait with the soft drink and junk food til I arrive though. I also wear a backpack to carry whatever.
germinalphrase 6y ago
Chiming in from Minneapolis, major bike paths/routes are generally plowed just as often as the roads. It can be a hurdle, but it’s not as bad as you might think.
onnimonni 6y ago
We used trucks with snow plows constantly in Finland too when it snows. The city where I'm from is called Tampere. I thought that the city used to be quite hostile towards bicycles ten years ago but since then they have built so many new biking lanes or removed lanes for the cars and replaced them for pedestrians and cycles. It was just faster to go everywhere with bicycle and with bicyclr6you don't need to spend time to search for a free parking place. If it rained a lot I used rain jacket or used the public transportation. In the winter we used tires with spikes in them (to battle the slippery ice). Removing some lanes makes the city much more enjoyable for everyone but ofc this is harder to do in really old cities which were designed for horses or big metropolitan areas wherr extra land is scarce. We moved to Tallinn, Estonia last year and compared to Finland the cycle lanes here are poorly designed and many local politicians still support cars over cycles which is a sad.

temp8964 6y ago

Jacket might be ok for small rain, but for heavy rain and thunderstorm? No. Employers expect employees to come to work every business day, and people expect business to open every business day, even under heavy rain and thunderstorm. Watch! Heavy rain/wind! Most people can't go to work! Most businesses are closed! Teachers can't go to schools! Nurses can't go to clinics and hospitals! What a ridiculous picture of a modern city. New proposal: this city only allows residents who are 20s/30s years old and healthy and fit.

cuu508 6y ago
"There is no bad weather, only inappropriate clothing." :-) If the existing materials are not good enough, perhaps we can invent more waterproof, windproof, breathable, warmer, cheaper etc. materials
- temp8964 6y ago
  I realized there is an easier solution: the whole city is a huge building, everyone lives and works inside. And you get time to go out once a while. ^_^.
- msla 6y ago
  > "There is no bad weather, only inappropriate clothing." :-) Say that in a whiteout blizzard.
TomSwirly 6y ago
I'm almost 60. I'm not a jock. I bike everywhere. Try again.
- temp8964 6y ago
  You read my whole comment right? The context is in heavy rain / wind. Do you do that too?
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