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> An admin role at Google pays more and works much less than an engineering role at a dysfunctional company. There's two issues here: 1) The op asked for a te
by lucideer 6y ago
> An admin role at Google pays more and works much less than an engineering role at a dysfunctional company.
There's two issues here:
1) The op asked for a technical role, so comparing an admin role to a technical one isn't helpful.
2) You're presuming Google is not a dysfunctional company.
I think point (2) is actually the more important one; reading through your comment, the type of "big, rich, process-driven" company is you describe is exactly what I thought of when the gp said "dysfunctional".
The only extra qualifier I would add to the gp is to "look for uncool dysfunctional companies". There are companies (like Google) that have what I would describe as a "cult factor", where they're able to create enough mythos around the brand that "good", hard-working, attentive & talented people want to work there purely based on the "culture" associated with the brand (and also having that brand listed on one's resume). This creates a competitive environment where the scale & bureaucracy might not be sufficient to save you from scrutiny.
The ideal place is somewhere exactly as dysfunctional as Google, but without the same reputation attached to the brand.
- creamytaco 6y agoAt least as far as Google is concerned, this hasn't been my experience. I spent ~6.5 years there working an hour a day at the most (cue Office Space, meeting with the Bobs) and AFAIK didn't raise any alarms. In fact, when I left, my colleagues complimented me on my "work ethic". It wasn't just me doing that either. Most ppl are too busy focusing on whatever life goals and illusions they've crafted for themselves to really scrutinize what others are doing and even if they realize what's happening, why would they care?
- lucideer 6y agoGood to know. I haven't worked in Google myself so I can't comment from first-hand experience, but I've heard from other Googlers I know that this is very much not the case for them. Could be office location/team dependent I'm sure. I guess in any large enough org you're likely to be able to find this in some areas.