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Sweden is a bit over-bureaucratic. To get a work visa, you need a job. To get a job, you need a home address in Sweden. To rent something to get a home address,

by pajko 6y ago

Sweden is a bit over-bureaucratic. To get a work visa, you need a job. To get a job, you need a home address in Sweden. To rent something to get a home address, you need work visa and a job, and it takes a lot of paperwork to break this cycle. Also depending on the city finding an apartment to rent can take a lot of time [1]. Consider adding Czechia to your list. Nice place with good beer, and central enough to easily visit other EU countries. Worth checking [2] and [3] [1] https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20160517-this-is-one-city-where-youll-never-find-a-home https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20160517-this-is-one-ci... [2] https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/country https://www.eurofound.europa.eu/country [3] https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Germany https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?cou...

silicon2401 6y ago
Thanks very much for the info! Moving internationally is difficult enough without the destination being particularly bureaucratic. Maybe I'll target Germany first and just travel to Sweden if I manage to live the dream and move to Europe for a time. I'll also check out Czechia, sounds interesting. thanks!
- 2rsf 6y ago
  @pajko is wrong and maybe is mixing Sweden with another country. You definitely don't need an home address in Sweden to get a work permit or a job (source- moved to Sweden, now a citizen) and the bureaucracy is really light for you and not over complicated for an employer. The process can take only a few weeks for a software engineer and a company registered in immigration services (most bigger SW companies are) and involves documentation from you and the company, "approval" from a union and putting a job add on a public board. There were few cases where engineers were not paid enough, and that's really low pay, or didn't get the proper insurances from their employer which caused their permit to be revoked, but those are really rare cases. You get your permanent residency semi-automatically after 4 years and citizenship after 5.

by pajko 6y ago

silicon2401 6y ago

Thanks very much for the info! Moving internationally is difficult enough without the destination being particularly bureaucratic. Maybe I'll target Germany first and just travel to Sweden if I manage to live the dream and move to Europe for a time. I'll also check out Czechia, sounds interesting. thanks!

2rsf 6y ago
@pajko is wrong and maybe is mixing Sweden with another country. You definitely don't need an home address in Sweden to get a work permit or a job (source- moved to Sweden, now a citizen) and the bureaucracy is really light for you and not over complicated for an employer. The process can take only a few weeks for a software engineer and a company registered in immigration services (most bigger SW companies are) and involves documentation from you and the company, "approval" from a union and putting a job add on a public board. There were few cases where engineers were not paid enough, and that's really low pay, or didn't get the proper insurances from their employer which caused their permit to be revoked, but those are really rare cases. You get your permanent residency semi-automatically after 4 years and citizenship after 5.