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At any given point, half of workers are contemplating leaving. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/27/47percent-of-workers-are-considering-quitting-their-jobs-right-n

At any given point, half of workers are contemplating leaving. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/27/47percent-of-workers-are-considering-quitting-their-jobs-right-now.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/27/47percent-of-workers-are-con... The typical office worker spends a half hour searching for new jobs at work every day. https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/in-an-8-hour-day-the-average-worker-is-productive-for-this-many-hours.html https://www.inc.com/melanie-curtin/in-an-8-hour-day-the-aver... I’m not sure this is a revolution or just that plenty of people have no real attachment to their employer.

tdeck 6y ago
I don't find that second statistic believable. As someone who though almost every day about leaving a past job, even I didn't spend 30 minutes per day looking at job listings. In fact for a while I had to force myself to spend 20 minutes a day on that activity.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  Interesting. I am not leaving anytime soon, but can easily spend 15-20 minutes a day replying to recruiters just in case I one day need them and just browsing what pops up as recommended on LinkedIn.
- sigstoat 6y ago
  i had an officemate who spent about ~7.5 hours a day looking at job listings and reading things like "how to quit your soul crushing day job and do what you always wanted". so she was holding the average up for you and 13 other folks.
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- hinkley 6y ago
  That's a average, not a cluster on a histogram. If you spend 4 hours a week job hunting when you are looking in earnest, that puts you over half an hour a day (almost 50 minutes per workday)
User23 6y ago
Conversely, if an employer isn't willing to let employees do a job remotely after having had a year to see that they're perfectly capable of doing so, they clearly have no attachment to their employees.
- Alupis 6y ago
  Or, perhaps they had a year to clearly see they're perfectly incapable of doing so. Not every office job is software engineering folks... Imagine trying to manage a warehouse remotely... or bounce ideas off each other in real time at a marketing agency... or any of the other normal jobs that thrive with in-person interaction. Not to mention, 34% is a minority... we can't force the other 66% to work remotely just because a minority enjoy it.
  - necheffa 6y ago
    In a similar vain of logic, 34% is a non-trivial portion. Why should a non-trivial portion be forced to work in an office just because another non-trivial portion wants to?
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      They shouldn't, but they may have to act on their preference and find a company who is going to be primarily or entirely remote.
      - mym1990 6y ago
        This. No one is forcing anyone to work in office. The job market is...market and it provides you with certain benefits for certain services and expectations in return, and for many companies one of those expectations is coming into the office. If the market moves towards more remote work, then remote work will gain more leverage in negotiations.
      - thinkharderdev 6y ago
        I think the most people overestimate how hard it is to be a remote member of a team that is in the office (especially for software engineers). I've been remote for years and up until the pandemic the rest of the team was working together in an office. I honestly never felt like it put me at a disadvantage and in many cases I think that I was the one at a considerable advantage. In general I think the future is not "fully remote" or "fully colocated" teams but teams were everyone is to some degree remote based on their preferences. So you may have some people who come into the office every day because they don't have a good workspace at home (or just like to get out of the house every day) but everyone else will come into the office somewhere between a few days a week and never.
kstenerud 6y ago
That's not a valid comparison. On one side you have people who just want to quit their current job. On the other side you have people who want to continue in their job, but also want to work from home badly enough that they'd be willing to quit over it.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  It isn't really meant as a comparison. It is more that "badly enough" isn't a high bar for a very large number of employees as they already not that attached to their jobs.
hvocode 6y ago
While there is likely some truth to it, the first survey is hardly unbiased: it’s a survey showing lots of people are looking for jobs conducted by a company focused on job searching. That would be like WebMD doing a survey of people on its site to see how many people think they’re sick and finding out “wow, lots of people think they’re sick”.
- Ensorceled 6y ago
  I'm trying to figure out how a job search company gains from warning employers that their employees may leave if they force those employees to come back to office full time ... It would actually be like WebMD doing a survey to find out how many people are hypochondriacs and shouldn't be using their site.
  - MattGaiser 6y ago
    They get a pile of new candidates when people read it and realize "if others are leaving, I should be looking at it too."
decafninja 6y ago
It's just another factor in the equation that (mostly) wasn't there before covid, because it was an extremely rare case where a company would offer the WFH perk.

tdeck 6y ago

I don't find that second statistic believable. As someone who though almost every day about leaving a past job, even I didn't spend 30 minutes per day looking at job listings. In fact for a while I had to force myself to spend 20 minutes a day on that activity.

MattGaiser 6y ago
Interesting. I am not leaving anytime soon, but can easily spend 15-20 minutes a day replying to recruiters just in case I one day need them and just browsing what pops up as recommended on LinkedIn.
sigstoat 6y ago
i had an officemate who spent about ~7.5 hours a day looking at job listings and reading things like "how to quit your soul crushing day job and do what you always wanted". so she was holding the average up for you and 13 other folks.
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hinkley 6y ago
That's a average, not a cluster on a histogram. If you spend 4 hours a week job hunting when you are looking in earnest, that puts you over half an hour a day (almost 50 minutes per workday)

User23 6y ago

Conversely, if an employer isn't willing to let employees do a job remotely after having had a year to see that they're perfectly capable of doing so, they clearly have no attachment to their employees.

Alupis 6y ago
Or, perhaps they had a year to clearly see they're perfectly incapable of doing so. Not every office job is software engineering folks... Imagine trying to manage a warehouse remotely... or bounce ideas off each other in real time at a marketing agency... or any of the other normal jobs that thrive with in-person interaction. Not to mention, 34% is a minority... we can't force the other 66% to work remotely just because a minority enjoy it.
- necheffa 6y ago
  In a similar vain of logic, 34% is a non-trivial portion. Why should a non-trivial portion be forced to work in an office just because another non-trivial portion wants to?
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    They shouldn't, but they may have to act on their preference and find a company who is going to be primarily or entirely remote.
    - mym1990 6y ago
      This. No one is forcing anyone to work in office. The job market is...market and it provides you with certain benefits for certain services and expectations in return, and for many companies one of those expectations is coming into the office. If the market moves towards more remote work, then remote work will gain more leverage in negotiations.
    - thinkharderdev 6y ago
      I think the most people overestimate how hard it is to be a remote member of a team that is in the office (especially for software engineers). I've been remote for years and up until the pandemic the rest of the team was working together in an office. I honestly never felt like it put me at a disadvantage and in many cases I think that I was the one at a considerable advantage. In general I think the future is not "fully remote" or "fully colocated" teams but teams were everyone is to some degree remote based on their preferences. So you may have some people who come into the office every day because they don't have a good workspace at home (or just like to get out of the house every day) but everyone else will come into the office somewhere between a few days a week and never.

kstenerud 6y ago

That's not a valid comparison. On one side you have people who just want to quit their current job. On the other side you have people who want to continue in their job, but also want to work from home badly enough that they'd be willing to quit over it.

MattGaiser 6y ago
It isn't really meant as a comparison. It is more that "badly enough" isn't a high bar for a very large number of employees as they already not that attached to their jobs.

hvocode 6y ago

While there is likely some truth to it, the first survey is hardly unbiased: it’s a survey showing lots of people are looking for jobs conducted by a company focused on job searching. That would be like WebMD doing a survey of people on its site to see how many people think they’re sick and finding out “wow, lots of people think they’re sick”.

Ensorceled 6y ago
I'm trying to figure out how a job search company gains from warning employers that their employees may leave if they force those employees to come back to office full time ... It would actually be like WebMD doing a survey to find out how many people are hypochondriacs and shouldn't be using their site.
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  They get a pile of new candidates when people read it and realize "if others are leaving, I should be looking at it too."

decafninja 6y ago

It's just another factor in the equation that (mostly) wasn't there before covid, because it was an extremely rare case where a company would offer the WFH perk.