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I'm not sure I understand. The absolute number of positive test cases is a best guess, a temperature gauge, no absolute truth. The true number of cases is unkno

I'm not sure I understand. The absolute number of positive test cases is a best guess, a temperature gauge, no absolute truth. The true number of cases is unknown and estimated to be 1.5-3 times the number of positive cases (from sero-prevalence studies). Contrary to popular belief policy decisions are not made on cases alone, but percentage of positive tests, hospital capacities, fatalities, test & trace capacities etc. taken together.

tinus_hn 5y ago
No they are not. The presentations designed to get government to approve measures are public, anyone can see them. Policy decisions are based on bullshit and fraudulent predictions. The current lockdown was started on December 15 based on a bullshit prediction, then the curfew was started based on another bullshit prediction that was even falsified before it was shown, and then everything was extended based on bullshit, first the statement ‘we need to go on longer so we can see if it works’ and then ‘we are sure it works’ and then ‘well we will never know if it works, but it’s scary to stop’. It’s bullshit through and through. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
RandallBrown 5y ago
Presenting the number of positive cases without normalizing for the number of tests taken and population is just dishonest. Hopefully those policy decisions are taking more into account but when communicating the decisions I've found that only the scary numbers are used as justification.
adevx 5y ago
Have you watched the "technical briefings" to the House of Representatives in the Netherlands? The same graphs as seen on the corona dashboard [1] are used to persuade politicians to implement policies based on absolute PCR test numbers. Despite an increase in weekly PCR tests from June's 50k to November's 260K [2]. I'm sure other data is used but this seems to be a major part of their argument. [1] https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/positief-geteste-mensen https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/positief-... [2] https://ggdghor.nl/actueel-bericht/weekupdate-cijfers-coronatests-bij-de-ggden-2/ https://ggdghor.nl/actueel-bericht/weekupdate-cijfers-corona...

tinus_hn 5y ago

No they are not. The presentations designed to get government to approve measures are public, anyone can see them. Policy decisions are based on bullshit and fraudulent predictions. The current lockdown was started on December 15 based on a bullshit prediction, then the curfew was started based on another bullshit prediction that was even falsified before it was shown, and then everything was extended based on bullshit, first the statement ‘we need to go on longer so we can see if it works’ and then ‘we are sure it works’ and then ‘well we will never know if it works, but it’s scary to stop’. It’s bullshit through and through. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

RandallBrown 5y ago

Presenting the number of positive cases without normalizing for the number of tests taken and population is just dishonest. Hopefully those policy decisions are taking more into account but when communicating the decisions I've found that only the scary numbers are used as justification.

adevx 5y ago

Have you watched the "technical briefings" to the House of Representatives in the Netherlands? The same graphs as seen on the corona dashboard [1] are used to persuade politicians to implement policies based on absolute PCR test numbers. Despite an increase in weekly PCR tests from June's 50k to November's 260K [2]. I'm sure other data is used but this seems to be a major part of their argument. [1] https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/positief-geteste-mensen https://coronadashboard.rijksoverheid.nl/landelijk/positief-... [2] https://ggdghor.nl/actueel-bericht/weekupdate-cijfers-coronatests-bij-de-ggden-2/ https://ggdghor.nl/actueel-bericht/weekupdate-cijfers-corona...