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>You can hack shit together with php + mysql, put in on a vps and you'll be treated like a sorcerer. This times 1,000,000

by paul_f 6y ago

colecut 6y ago
Yes this is one of the most true things I have ever read based on my own experience.. In 2009 I was hired to do mostly helpdesk / IT support for a printer/copier sales company, making $36k By 2012 I was making over $80k, being taken on the annual company trips with the high sales earners (cabo, hawaii), etc.. All basically because I set up a web based dashboard that aggregated numbers that their Sales CRM stored in a SQL database, which saved the Sales Managers tons of time every week.. I continued building this out / milking it for a few years, adding new reports and features. It was the worst spaghetti code you have ever seen, SQL statements placed inside of HTML tables, wow it makes me kind of sick thinking about it now, I did not know what I was doing. None of that mattered though.
- ascendantlogic 6y ago
  > None of that mattered though. After doing this professionally for 20 years I've found that clients don't care what language, framework, hosting provider, etc you use to solve their problems. They don't care about your code quality, they don't care about your CI pipeline or any of that shit. They care if you have solved their problem for them, and that's it.
  - groaner 6y ago
    They also don't care about security, until one day it bites them in the ass.
    - mxschumacher 6y ago
      I continue to be surprised by how little impact gigantic hacks seem to have on large companies. Countless media reports of deep intrusions, stock market valuations not dented in the long term.
      - ascendantlogic 6y ago
        Until giant hacks result in actual pain being experienced by the leaders of these companies in the form of jail time and/or fines that aren't rounding errors on the balance sheet, no one will care.
- dsego 6y ago
  >SQL statements placed inside of HTML tables You're good. The principle of proximity applies, or was it locality of behavior?
  - colecut 6y ago
    There was nothing good about my code organization

>You can hack shit together with php + mysql, put in on a vps and you'll be treated like a sorcerer. This times 1,000,000

by paul_f 6y ago

>You can hack shit together with php + mysql, put in on a vps and you'll be treated like a sorcerer. This times 1,000,000

colecut 6y ago

Yes this is one of the most true things I have ever read based on my own experience.. In 2009 I was hired to do mostly helpdesk / IT support for a printer/copier sales company, making $36k By 2012 I was making over $80k, being taken on the annual company trips with the high sales earners (cabo, hawaii), etc.. All basically because I set up a web based dashboard that aggregated numbers that their Sales CRM stored in a SQL database, which saved the Sales Managers tons of time every week.. I continued building this out / milking it for a few years, adding new reports and features. It was the worst spaghetti code you have ever seen, SQL statements placed inside of HTML tables, wow it makes me kind of sick thinking about it now, I did not know what I was doing. None of that mattered though.

ascendantlogic 6y ago
> None of that mattered though. After doing this professionally for 20 years I've found that clients don't care what language, framework, hosting provider, etc you use to solve their problems. They don't care about your code quality, they don't care about your CI pipeline or any of that shit. They care if you have solved their problem for them, and that's it.
- groaner 6y ago
  They also don't care about security, until one day it bites them in the ass.
  - mxschumacher 6y ago
    I continue to be surprised by how little impact gigantic hacks seem to have on large companies. Countless media reports of deep intrusions, stock market valuations not dented in the long term.
    - ascendantlogic 6y ago
      Until giant hacks result in actual pain being experienced by the leaders of these companies in the form of jail time and/or fines that aren't rounding errors on the balance sheet, no one will care.
dsego 6y ago
>SQL statements placed inside of HTML tables You're good. The principle of proximity applies, or was it locality of behavior?
- colecut 6y ago
  There was nothing good about my code organization