> Obviously, if you look for second-rate developers to be your testers, you will end up with second-rate testers or worse! Yeah, and to make my thoughts a litt

> Obviously, if you look for second-rate developers to be your testers, you will end up with second-rate testers or worse! Yeah, and to make my thoughts a little clearer: if your organization does that, it's no wonder some people come to the (wrong) conclusion that only devs should test their own code. To come to the right conclusion in such an org, you either need an outlier experience (e.g. a talented tester who chose the role against organizational incentives) or the ability to see past your own direct experiences (which is really hard).