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It’s really sad that you are blind to your own severe discrimination. If you think in sweeping generalizations like, “leftists make the mistake...” you really n

by mlthoughts2018 5y ago

It’s really sad that you are blind to your own severe discrimination. If you think in sweeping generalizations like, “leftists make the mistake...” you really need to step back and spend time not commenting at all and work harder to gain more self-awareness about your own prejudices. I know you will not like this comment and you will want to knee-jerk reply to “refute” it, but you need to resist that urge and admit you have really significant and really troubling prejudices that come through like a megaphone to others observing you, and spend time just dealing with that.

beaconstudios 5y ago
I think you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I agree with the goals of leftists - and with many left criticisms of late capitalism. My criticism comes from wanting those goals to be achieved more effectively. In other words, I think the left has successfully identified many problems in our society but lacks the tools to fix them, and I think I have an idea of what those tools might be (systems thinking primarily). I don't particularly care about your recommendation to self-crit. I spend enough time trying to criticise my own mental models as it is. I could cite some individual leftists that I think are doing great work in the space if you would like. I know the phrases I use are over generalising here, so feel free to imply the word "some" in front of the nouns.
- blankaccount 5y ago
  hi!!!!!!
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    Hey there
zthrowaway 5y ago
Where in the world is the “severe discrimination” and prejudice in that comment? You’re knee-jerk character charging without addressing the main points.
- beaconstudios 5y ago
  This user stalked me from a previous comment chain. Essentially they are bought into critical theory and I'm bought into systems theory so we're talking past each other. It's kind of amusing given we're presumably after the same thing (reducing power differentials) but by different means.
  - mlthoughts2018 5y ago
    I don’t think we’re talking past each other, I just noticed after your comments on the other thread that you have a lot of incendiary bias in many comments that seems really toxic and you seem blind to it and very un-self-aware. For example, you made a recent comment talking about how almost all software developers are horrible at their jobs and that a small set of gatekeeper senior engineers should guard all code review. It just reveals beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are the toxic common element across all these different topics and you bring the same toxicity you have in political beliefs even over into other domains like rudimentary discussion of software engineering. I’m more interested in calling out your really troubling toxic attitudes. I might be right or I might be wrong about details in the politics thread, but it just pales in comparison to the severe bias and negativity emanating from every discussion you join, and yet you persist in complete self-denial that you’ve got some major attitude issues you need to deal with.
    - beaconstudios 5y ago
      then consider me called out. For what it's worth, I don't think you are being particularly pleasant either. That's just disliking each other, and I'm OK with that. > For example, you made a recent comment talking about how almost all software developers are horrible at their jobs and that a small set of gatekeeper senior engineers should guard all code review. For what it's worth it was something of an ironic joke related to the idea that "half of all people are below average at X", but also pointing at the idea that the industry gets better as the individuals who make it up get better at what they do. I support the idea that people who are better at a job should help to educate others. I try to humble myself to better engineers than myself.

beaconstudios 5y ago

I think you misunderstand where I'm coming from. I agree with the goals of leftists - and with many left criticisms of late capitalism. My criticism comes from wanting those goals to be achieved more effectively. In other words, I think the left has successfully identified many problems in our society but lacks the tools to fix them, and I think I have an idea of what those tools might be (systems thinking primarily). I don't particularly care about your recommendation to self-crit. I spend enough time trying to criticise my own mental models as it is. I could cite some individual leftists that I think are doing great work in the space if you would like. I know the phrases I use are over generalising here, so feel free to imply the word "some" in front of the nouns.

blankaccount 5y ago
hi!!!!!!
- beaconstudios 5y ago
  Hey there

zthrowaway 5y ago

Where in the world is the “severe discrimination” and prejudice in that comment? You’re knee-jerk character charging without addressing the main points.

beaconstudios 5y ago
This user stalked me from a previous comment chain. Essentially they are bought into critical theory and I'm bought into systems theory so we're talking past each other. It's kind of amusing given we're presumably after the same thing (reducing power differentials) but by different means.
- mlthoughts2018 5y ago
  I don’t think we’re talking past each other, I just noticed after your comments on the other thread that you have a lot of incendiary bias in many comments that seems really toxic and you seem blind to it and very un-self-aware. For example, you made a recent comment talking about how almost all software developers are horrible at their jobs and that a small set of gatekeeper senior engineers should guard all code review. It just reveals beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are the toxic common element across all these different topics and you bring the same toxicity you have in political beliefs even over into other domains like rudimentary discussion of software engineering. I’m more interested in calling out your really troubling toxic attitudes. I might be right or I might be wrong about details in the politics thread, but it just pales in comparison to the severe bias and negativity emanating from every discussion you join, and yet you persist in complete self-denial that you’ve got some major attitude issues you need to deal with.
  - beaconstudios 5y ago
    then consider me called out. For what it's worth, I don't think you are being particularly pleasant either. That's just disliking each other, and I'm OK with that. > For example, you made a recent comment talking about how almost all software developers are horrible at their jobs and that a small set of gatekeeper senior engineers should guard all code review. For what it's worth it was something of an ironic joke related to the idea that "half of all people are below average at X", but also pointing at the idea that the industry gets better as the individuals who make it up get better at what they do. I support the idea that people who are better at a job should help to educate others. I try to humble myself to better engineers than myself.