I'd personally be in favor of some sort of travel bubble within the pacific with other countries who share our low/zero local transmission (or at least to have

I'd personally be in favor of some sort of travel bubble within the pacific with other countries who share our low/zero local transmission (or at least to have a more lightweight quarantine process involved). That said, my point was that opening NZ up to Australia (and vice versa) is a very different scenario to opening up to eg the US, France or the UK.