> > If it's so easy, what's a good example of software that rides the line well? > Firefox. Firefox is very easy to use as a non-technical user, and has a rela

> > If it's so easy, what's a good example of software that rides the line well? > Firefox. Firefox is very easy to use as a non-technical user, and has a relatively high skill cap (used to be higher with XUL/XPCOM, but even now you can do useful things relatively easily with the WebExtensions model). I wrote my original comment in Firefox. I don't think that any browser can meet the needs of both groups. A very non-exhaustive list of Firefox issues for laymen: * URLs are fundamentally frustrating for laymen. Full stop. If your browser exposes URLs, it's a phishing-filled, typo-squatted, and incredibly confusing experience for the average person. N.B. I am against recent efforts to "kill the URL", though I certainly empathize with the desire. * If a site has an SSL cert, it gets a lock and says "connection secure", and if it doesn't then there's a scary security warning. There are millions of sites that are fine to browse read-only in http, and there are millions of scam sites available over https. Again, note that I am pro everyday encryption, my issue here is to do with asserting (in)security on only the axis of whether a CA issued a cert to that domain name. * The browser extension permission model is not at all useful. Benevolent extensions that use exactly the common-sense permissions they need show a big scary list of permissions. Malicious extensions often show the exact same set of permissions as a benevolent one. Imagine if your toothbrush, dental floss, trashcan, shower curtain and shampoo required you to individually confirm to the cashier that you want to buy them because they require access to your bathroom. And then imagine your dental floss got an automatic update to record video of you in the shower and upload it to pornhub. It's absurd that we expect the average person to navigate this nonsense. Meanwhile, here's a very non-exhaustive list of Firefox issues for power users. Most of these are issues I have myself. * The old extensions API has been removed and the new one is much more restrictive in what it can accomplish. There's still not a download manager or tree-style tabs extension that checks all the boxes I want, even though they existed in the past. * It comes bundled with Pocket and Mozilla have shown a willingness to automatically install literal ads. For a TV show that I've heard is about computer security! * I installed a web clipper application to clip markdown. Except that it's not allowed to save files anywhere but my downloads folder, so if I want to clip straight to my notes archive I have to use a symlink. * The browser extension permission model is not at all useful. Sound familiar? It's absurd that we expect even power users to navigate this nonsense.