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There's a selection effect: people like me experience so much ambient hostility in society that we gravitate towards communities that welcome us and that alread

There's a selection effect: people like me experience so much ambient hostility in society that we gravitate towards communities that welcome us and that already have people like us in leadership positions. So the correct metric is not % of all developers as a whole but just the ones involved in the Rust community. The Rust community has many nonbinary and transgender people in it, and speakers are selected from the community. The selection process for RustConf is blind so the talks were picked for their merit: it just so happened that half of the speakers weren't cis. > rust is a very unique community Yes, this is true in my experience.

carlhjerpe 6y ago
I've been thinking about a good answer, but these days it's a fine line to talk about these things. I'm happy the rust community is so open while being widely successful. Might shine some light into the rest of the world. I'm from Sweden,where this kind of hostility probably exists, but I never see it (gay people are very well accepted, trans I'm not as certain, only have a pool of 1 friend so not enough data).
- howinteresting 6y ago
  I'm not Swedish so I don't know much about what it's like to be a Swedish trans person. One thing I will say is that my general impression from afar is that Europeans are generally a lot more tolerant of the state interfering in personal identity issues than the liberal parts of the US. Iceland used to have a fixed list of approved baby names for example, something unimaginable in the US. The situation was made better in 2019: https://www.icelandreview.com/news/icelandic-names-will-no-longer-be-gendered/ https://www.icelandreview.com/news/icelandic-names-will-no-l...
- Rule35 6y ago
  I think the discussion gets a bit blurred around what acceptance means. It varies from acceptance of an adult just being trans, of trans babies, of schools preaching medical transition without parent approval, and of issue of bathroom usage and sex-segregated prisons. Regardless of the political questions presumably Swedes are fairly liberal about someone's personal choices.

carlhjerpe 6y ago

I've been thinking about a good answer, but these days it's a fine line to talk about these things. I'm happy the rust community is so open while being widely successful. Might shine some light into the rest of the world. I'm from Sweden,where this kind of hostility probably exists, but I never see it (gay people are very well accepted, trans I'm not as certain, only have a pool of 1 friend so not enough data).

howinteresting 6y ago
I'm not Swedish so I don't know much about what it's like to be a Swedish trans person. One thing I will say is that my general impression from afar is that Europeans are generally a lot more tolerant of the state interfering in personal identity issues than the liberal parts of the US. Iceland used to have a fixed list of approved baby names for example, something unimaginable in the US. The situation was made better in 2019: https://www.icelandreview.com/news/icelandic-names-will-no-longer-be-gendered/ https://www.icelandreview.com/news/icelandic-names-will-no-l...
Rule35 6y ago
I think the discussion gets a bit blurred around what acceptance means. It varies from acceptance of an adult just being trans, of trans babies, of schools preaching medical transition without parent approval, and of issue of bathroom usage and sex-segregated prisons. Regardless of the political questions presumably Swedes are fairly liberal about someone's personal choices.