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Are there lots of people who don't work at Google because of him? My impression is that he'd very well regarded in the tech community.

ketzo 6y ago
Well, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him.
- strangeattractr 6y ago
  I mean it's a big leap to say that. Insinuating that he's a troublesome character to work with when most people say the opposite is quite strange. Even if it is related to his personality, sometimes people just don't get along in a workplace. The choice between Dean and Gebru for Google is a fairly easy one in this situation.
- ryan93 6y ago
  If you have something to accuse him of just go ahead and say it. Regardless the recent firings and resignations were for "AI ethics" researchers who were hired for political reasons in the first place. Real engineers wont care.
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- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Well, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him. You mean: directly attributed to him and Megan Kacholia.
sp332 6y ago
I was only able to find a few who mentioned it specifically, https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840 https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840, https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 and possibly https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 & https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 But it's not just me who figures that people will be less inclined to want to work there including this Google employee https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 and this person who co-authored a paper with Timnit https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 Edit: oh and that time their sponsorship of the FAccT was cancelled. https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-conference-suspends-google-sponsorship/ https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-confer...
rurban 6y ago
Not anymore. Also Bengio was demoted over the Gebru support, most likely by Jeff. I also would want to have Gebru on my team, but the handling of HR issues is key here.

ketzo 6y ago

Well, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him.

strangeattractr 6y ago
I mean it's a big leap to say that. Insinuating that he's a troublesome character to work with when most people say the opposite is quite strange. Even if it is related to his personality, sometimes people just don't get along in a workplace. The choice between Dean and Gebru for Google is a fairly easy one in this situation.
ryan93 6y ago
If you have something to accuse him of just go ahead and say it. Regardless the recent firings and resignations were for "AI ethics" researchers who were hired for political reasons in the first place. Real engineers wont care.
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dragonwriter 6y ago
> Well, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him. You mean: directly attributed to him and Megan Kacholia.

sp332 6y ago

I was only able to find a few who mentioned it specifically, https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840 https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840, https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 and possibly https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 & https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 But it's not just me who figures that people will be less inclined to want to work there including this Google employee https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 and this person who co-authored a paper with Timnit https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 Edit: oh and that time their sponsorship of the FAccT was cancelled. https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-conference-suspends-google-sponsorship/ https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-confer...

rurban 6y ago

Not anymore. Also Bengio was demoted over the Gebru support, most likely by Jeff. I also would want to have Gebru on my team, but the handling of HR issues is key here.