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As impressive as Dean's technical skills are, there's a point where Google would be better off without him than without all the people who decided not to work f
by sp332 6y ago
As impressive as Dean's technical skills are, there's a point where Google would be better off without him than without all the people who decided not to work for Google because of him.
- ironrabbit 6y agoAre there lots of people who don't work at Google because of him? My impression is that he'd very well regarded in the tech community.
- ketzo 6y agoWell, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him.
- strangeattractr 6y agoI mean it's a big leap to say that. Insinuating that he's a troublesome character to work with when most people say the opposite is quite strange. Even if it is related to his personality, sometimes people just don't get along in a workplace. The choice between Dean and Gebru for Google is a fairly easy one in this situation.
- ryan93 6y agoIf you have something to accuse him of just go ahead and say it. Regardless the recent firings and resignations were for "AI ethics" researchers who were hired for political reasons in the first place. Real engineers wont care.
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- dragonwriter 6y ago> Well, at the very minimum, the recent firings/resignations certainly seem... correlated to him. You mean: directly attributed to him and Megan Kacholia.
- sp332 6y agoI was only able to find a few who mentioned it specifically, https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840 https://twitter.com/luke_stark/status/1372934350011043840, https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 https://twitter.com/KwasiAMensah/status/1377259862762123265 and possibly https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 https://twitter.com/ackleow/status/1354874327796232195 & https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 https://twitter.com/pigpen7877/status/1377542008093302787 But it's not just me who figures that people will be less inclined to want to work there including this Google employee https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 https://twitter.com/vickitardif/status/1334499064457650176 and this person who co-authored a paper with Timnit https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 https://twitter.com/emilymbender/status/1370463074692472834 Edit: oh and that time their sponsorship of the FAccT was cancelled. https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-conference-suspends-google-sponsorship/ https://venturebeat.com/2021/03/02/ai-ethics-research-confer...
- rurban 6y agoNot anymore. Also Bengio was demoted over the Gebru support, most likely by Jeff. I also would want to have Gebru on my team, but the handling of HR issues is key here.
- prepend 6y agoMy impression is that many more people join Google to work with Dean than don’t join wanting to avoid him. Hard to measure though and be certain.