4 ms·

> How do you stop harassers sending unwanted money? idk, but this sounds like a great problem to have.

by leetcrew 6y ago

frakkingcylons 6y ago
I wouldn’t want to be barraged with messages from spammers because they’re sending me $.0001
- stevenicr 6y ago
  So if these folks can make an address or wallet or however it works, auto-reject everything under X... I myself will take all the spam you can send at 50 cents per message. ( I already sort about $200 worth of free spam daily at that rate) I can imagine some other folks could set them at min 5 dollars per attached message and get use of such a thing. Now wonders if an email layer can be added to transactions with this coin and a reply that can serve other digital assets.. patreon without the fees? onlyfans without the (insert their cut plus visa/mc cut here) - email with little to no spam.. I'm ready to help make this a thing.
Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
Not really. Someone steals money, sends them to you, your are having lots of trouble proving you are not an accomplice. If you are a government official, you can be framed as receiving a bribe. In russia government can send your organisation money from abroad via an agent and then shut you down as a 'foreign agent'.
- Jtsummers 6y ago
  > In russia government can send your organisation money from abroad via an agent and then shut you down as a 'foreign agent'. They could do this with traditional banking systems as well. Presumably the Russian government has a high degree of surveillance with regard to their domestic banks like every other nation in the world has. Creating a false financial trail is made slightly easier with crypto currencies, but for a nation state it's not hard to do with traditional banking systems.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    Creating a false trail is far more difficult than asking some scoundrel send 100 euro while vacationing in Italy or Spain. Also, for a FSB operative it is an opportunity to go to spain to 'supervise' the operation, lol.
- syrrim 6y ago
  How do they prove they sent it to you?
  - insert_coin 6y ago
    Prove? we are talking about Russia here.
- leppr 6y ago
  MobileCoin transactions and balances are private and untraceable. This problem doesn't exist here.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    Think again. A criminal sends you a known amount of money, then you are seized and phone is searched, and you receive the exact amount of money a criminal had sent you.
kevingadd 6y ago
Accepting unwanted money from someone can have serious consequences in many cases. In some cases it is illegal - for example, accepting certain types of political donations. In cases where you've been sent unwanted money your obligation is typically to return it, but that specific type of use-case is often not considered when people design things. If you end up in a situation where anyone can send you money and you can't return it, you're in big trouble because the sender might be causing you to unintentionally get involved in a violation of the law and leave you without any method to undo it.
jeltz 6y ago
Not really. A friend of a friend had this issue and it was a huge pain.

> How do you stop harassers sending unwanted money? idk, but this sounds like a great problem to have.

frakkingcylons 6y ago

I wouldn’t want to be barraged with messages from spammers because they’re sending me $.0001

stevenicr 6y ago
So if these folks can make an address or wallet or however it works, auto-reject everything under X... I myself will take all the spam you can send at 50 cents per message. ( I already sort about $200 worth of free spam daily at that rate) I can imagine some other folks could set them at min 5 dollars per attached message and get use of such a thing. Now wonders if an email layer can be added to transactions with this coin and a reply that can serve other digital assets.. patreon without the fees? onlyfans without the (insert their cut plus visa/mc cut here) - email with little to no spam.. I'm ready to help make this a thing.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

Not really. Someone steals money, sends them to you, your are having lots of trouble proving you are not an accomplice. If you are a government official, you can be framed as receiving a bribe. In russia government can send your organisation money from abroad via an agent and then shut you down as a 'foreign agent'.

Jtsummers 6y ago
> In russia government can send your organisation money from abroad via an agent and then shut you down as a 'foreign agent'. They could do this with traditional banking systems as well. Presumably the Russian government has a high degree of surveillance with regard to their domestic banks like every other nation in the world has. Creating a false financial trail is made slightly easier with crypto currencies, but for a nation state it's not hard to do with traditional banking systems.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  Creating a false trail is far more difficult than asking some scoundrel send 100 euro while vacationing in Italy or Spain. Also, for a FSB operative it is an opportunity to go to spain to 'supervise' the operation, lol.
syrrim 6y ago
How do they prove they sent it to you?
- insert_coin 6y ago
  Prove? we are talking about Russia here.
leppr 6y ago
MobileCoin transactions and balances are private and untraceable. This problem doesn't exist here.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  Think again. A criminal sends you a known amount of money, then you are seized and phone is searched, and you receive the exact amount of money a criminal had sent you.

kevingadd 6y ago

Accepting unwanted money from someone can have serious consequences in many cases. In some cases it is illegal - for example, accepting certain types of political donations. In cases where you've been sent unwanted money your obligation is typically to return it, but that specific type of use-case is often not considered when people design things. If you end up in a situation where anyone can send you money and you can't return it, you're in big trouble because the sender might be causing you to unintentionally get involved in a violation of the law and leave you without any method to undo it.

jeltz 6y ago

Not really. A friend of a friend had this issue and it was a huge pain.