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The integrated ethereum wallet is a red flag for me.

by speedgoose 6y ago

ubercow13 6y ago
The messaging itself actually runs on the ethereum network.
- michaelsbradley 6y ago
  No it doesn't. The messaging is run on a decentralized network that uses the Waku protocol. Currently the clients (mobile and desktop) use Waku v1: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/6/ https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/6/ But work to transition to Waku v2 is underway: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/10/ https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/10/
  - ubercow13 6y ago
    Yes but isn't the Waku v1 protocol running on ÐΞVp2p, which uses the Ethereum network? The protocol is Waku, but as far as I understand the 'decentralized network' is the Ethereum network?
    - chrisco255 6y ago
      Here's the specs: https://specs.status.im/spec/10 https://specs.status.im/spec/10 That's correct. It uses Waku for routing and messaging, but the Waku nodes are Ethereum nodes with Waku v1 enabled. Here's more from VAC, the org behind Waku and their plans for v2: https://vac.dev/waku-v2-ethereum-messaging https://vac.dev/waku-v2-ethereum-messaging
chrisco255 6y ago
Why? Brave has an integrated Ethereum wallet. In the future, you won't want to use an app that doesn't have one, or at least doesn't have hooks for WalletConnect. Web3 has a fairer monetization system than the exploitative Web2 advertising model built on spying and manipulation.
- ben0x539 6y ago
  Brave having an integrated Ethereum wallet is also reason enough for me to not consider using Brave.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    I wouldn't use Brave _because_ of that feature. After all, you can install any Chrome extension you want in Brave and use the wallet of your choice. But the existence of that feature is not a pre-requisite or post-requisite for using the product.
- dybber 6y ago
  What makes crypto currencies solve a problem in this area that can’t be solved using traditional currencies and payment processors? Blockchain is a system for introducing trust, who is it you don’t feel we should trust?
- speedgoose 6y ago
  The crypto bullshit inside Brave is also a red flag and why I don't use it anymore and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
michaelsbradley 6y ago
Many persons that are interested in decentralized messaging are also interested in cryptocurrency, but not all are. If someone wishes to use the app only as a messenger, the wallet will neither add to nor take away from their experience, i.e. use of the wallet is entirely optional. I'm a developer at Status, and am on the team responsible for the Status Desktop client[+] (currently in beta), feel free to ask me anything. [+] https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop
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The integrated ethereum wallet is a red flag for me.

ubercow13 6y ago

The messaging itself actually runs on the ethereum network.

michaelsbradley 6y ago
No it doesn't. The messaging is run on a decentralized network that uses the Waku protocol. Currently the clients (mobile and desktop) use Waku v1: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/6/ https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/6/ But work to transition to Waku v2 is underway: https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/10/ https://rfc.vac.dev/spec/10/
- ubercow13 6y ago
  Yes but isn't the Waku v1 protocol running on ÐΞVp2p, which uses the Ethereum network? The protocol is Waku, but as far as I understand the 'decentralized network' is the Ethereum network?
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    Here's the specs: https://specs.status.im/spec/10 https://specs.status.im/spec/10 That's correct. It uses Waku for routing and messaging, but the Waku nodes are Ethereum nodes with Waku v1 enabled. Here's more from VAC, the org behind Waku and their plans for v2: https://vac.dev/waku-v2-ethereum-messaging https://vac.dev/waku-v2-ethereum-messaging

chrisco255 6y ago

Why? Brave has an integrated Ethereum wallet. In the future, you won't want to use an app that doesn't have one, or at least doesn't have hooks for WalletConnect. Web3 has a fairer monetization system than the exploitative Web2 advertising model built on spying and manipulation.

ben0x539 6y ago
Brave having an integrated Ethereum wallet is also reason enough for me to not consider using Brave.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  I wouldn't use Brave _because_ of that feature. After all, you can install any Chrome extension you want in Brave and use the wallet of your choice. But the existence of that feature is not a pre-requisite or post-requisite for using the product.
dybber 6y ago
What makes crypto currencies solve a problem in this area that can’t be solved using traditional currencies and payment processors? Blockchain is a system for introducing trust, who is it you don’t feel we should trust?
speedgoose 6y ago
The crypto bullshit inside Brave is also a red flag and why I don't use it anymore and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

michaelsbradley 6y ago

Many persons that are interested in decentralized messaging are also interested in cryptocurrency, but not all are. If someone wishes to use the app only as a messenger, the wallet will neither add to nor take away from their experience, i.e. use of the wallet is entirely optional. I'm a developer at Status, and am on the team responsible for the Status Desktop client[+] (currently in beta), feel free to ask me anything. [+] https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop https://github.com/status-im/status-desktop

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