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MobileCoin has not yet paid Signal anything for integrating MobileCoin. We intend to donate a great deal of money to Signal over the coming years. We believe i
by josh2600 6y ago
MobileCoin has not yet paid Signal anything for integrating MobileCoin. We intend to donate a great deal of money to Signal over the coming years.
We believe in Signal's mission and we think that the world is a better place with Signal in it.
- RL_Quine 6y agoMoxie Marlinspike is listed as an advisor for MobileCoin, was this not a paid position?
- josh2600 6y agoMoxie != Signal. Moxie, as an individual, is a paid technical advisor to MobileCoin but the reality is that we could never pay Moxie what his time is worth. I am thankful that he has chosen to help make this project a reality.
- BlueMatt 6y agoThe revelations from the Platformer article [1] about how Signal works inside make it pretty clear that Moxie ~= Signal. [1] https://www.platformer.news/p/-the-battle-inside-signal https://www.platformer.news/p/-the-battle-inside-signal
- fourstar 6y ago>Moxie creates Signal >Moxie advises MobileCoin >MobileCoin gets integrated into Signal Hm, yes, must just be one large coincidence that this "integration" happened.
- pixxel 6y agoAnd a reason surfaced to continue to connect users to their phone numbers... >>The UK also has receiver verification. If I try to send to an account and it doesn't match the name I'm sending to, my bank will warn me. How do you stop impersonation? A: Signal relies on phone numbers for identities. Other apps that integrate MobileCoin may have a higher threshold for identification.
- lrvick 6y agoSignal is entirely centralized and Moxie runs the organization. For all intents and purposes Moxie is 100% in control of the Signal network and could shut it down or release a malicious update that plaintexts messages at any time.
- aaaxyz 6y agoThat is just sad. I've been a longtime signal user (since the textsecure/redphone days). I've always given moxie a pass on his controversial decisions (no federalisation, no 3rd party clients, no fdroid repo, relying on Google play services, being slow to release serverside source code) because the team was small and obviously had to cut corners somewhere. But learning that they spent their time adding support for a (premined?) cryptocurrency just because it's Moxie's pet project is disheartening. What are the odds that this would've been merged into the project if it had been a merge request opened by someone from the outside?
- nullc 6y agoEspecially when you consider those decisions in light of this move: they create platform lock in and lockdown. Want to run signal with no payments integration or with a Bitcoin wallet instead? Too bad.
- adeptus 6y agoWhat are your (you guys) opinions on Session (https://getsession.org/ https://getsession.org/), the Signal clone that uses Tor, and no phone numbers? Any significant downsides? Anybody know the team there and can speak on their trustworthiness, longer term intentions etc? What about the code they've added? Anybody review that? At a quick glance it looks like a decent but less user friendly alternative (no phone numbers - good for privacy, bad for grandma's to be able to adopt it easily). Thanks.
- haakon 6y agoThey are also going to integrate a cryptocurrency: https://getsession.org/crypto-craze/ https://getsession.org/crypto-craze/
- slenk 6y agoUnfortunately, Moxie is Signal because he won't let anyone else (open-source clients) connect to the Signal servers OR run their own.
- senectus1 6y agoCult of personality holds more value than MobileCoin unfortunately. I wish there was a way to decentralize that value :-P