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Effectively not anymore. Here is a very recent german article about it: https://www.golem.de/news/crypto-messenger-signal-server-nicht-mehr-open-source-2104-155

by brodo 6y ago

Effectively not anymore. Here is a very recent german article about it: https://www.golem.de/news/crypto-messenger-signal-server-nicht-mehr-open-source-2104-155376.html https://www.golem.de/news/crypto-messenger-signal-server-nic... No updates in the repo for over a year and no answers from the team. The whole crypto currency thing is also a red flag for me. Matrix seems to be the better option by now...

rogers18445 6y ago
Just what are they trying to do? They are a non-profit which would make a money grab somewhat impractical. Are they worried they are going to get successfully forked or something? Their unquestioned faith in Intel SGX is somewhat pathetic to be fair.
dunefox 6y ago
If anything, Threema is the best alternative.
- pmlnr 6y ago
  No, it really is not. Matrix or XMPP.
  - approxim8ion 6y ago
    XMPP has issues on Android and iOS: the app needs to be running and connected to the server at all times to fetch new messages. iOS explicitly disallows this from what I understand, and on Android you are at the mercy of your OEM's battery optimizations unless you specifically keep the app running by pinning it or if the app has persistent notifications. Either way, not something that is easy to explain to normal users, meaning pain points arise very soon. Matrix is a little more promising, but Element (at least on matrix.org servers) is slow, especially at scale.
    - Zash 6y ago
      Any chat app would have issues with battery optimizations. Solution is usually to use the mobile OS vendors push notification infrastructure. Work on that in XMPP started around 2015 and most popular clients and servers should have some support by now. It's tricky to make something nice while the platform is working against you tho, especially while those push notification systems use/d XMPP themselves.
  - dunefox 6y ago
    Any reasons why not? It ticks all the boxes for me: https://threema.ch/en/ https://threema.ch/en/
    - pmlnr 6y ago
      No self hosting, so not federated/decentralized.
hiq 6y ago
Old news: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

by brodo 6y ago

rogers18445 6y ago

Just what are they trying to do? They are a non-profit which would make a money grab somewhat impractical. Are they worried they are going to get successfully forked or something? Their unquestioned faith in Intel SGX is somewhat pathetic to be fair.

dunefox 6y ago

If anything, Threema is the best alternative.

pmlnr 6y ago
No, it really is not. Matrix or XMPP.
- approxim8ion 6y ago
  XMPP has issues on Android and iOS: the app needs to be running and connected to the server at all times to fetch new messages. iOS explicitly disallows this from what I understand, and on Android you are at the mercy of your OEM's battery optimizations unless you specifically keep the app running by pinning it or if the app has persistent notifications. Either way, not something that is easy to explain to normal users, meaning pain points arise very soon. Matrix is a little more promising, but Element (at least on matrix.org servers) is slow, especially at scale.
  - Zash 6y ago
    Any chat app would have issues with battery optimizations. Solution is usually to use the mobile OS vendors push notification infrastructure. Work on that in XMPP started around 2015 and most popular clients and servers should have some support by now. It's tricky to make something nice while the platform is working against you tho, especially while those push notification systems use/d XMPP themselves.
- dunefox 6y ago
  Any reasons why not? It ticks all the boxes for me: https://threema.ch/en/ https://threema.ch/en/
  - pmlnr 6y ago
    No self hosting, so not federated/decentralized.

hiq 6y ago

Old news: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server