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Dialectical materialism isn’t in conflict with spirituality. It doesn’t deny that humans are spiritual creatures. It is in conflict with metaphysical idealism.

by xtian 6y ago

Dialectical materialism isn’t in conflict with spirituality. It doesn’t deny that humans are spiritual creatures. It is in conflict with metaphysical idealism. If that’s what you’re trying to say then I agree, but I’m simply making the point that metaphysical idealism does not represent the sum total of human spirituality throughout history. Marx no more denies that humans are spiritual creatures than Taoism does, e.g. He certainly never says that all human meaning is reducible to domination and metabolic function.

achillesheels 6y ago
"Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that man’s ideas, views, and conception, in one word, man’s consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life? What else does the history of ideas prove, than that intellectual production changes its character in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class." "But whatever form they may have taken, one fact is common to all past ages, viz., the exploitation of one part of society by the other." -Chapter II, Proletarians and Communists, Communist Manifesto And please watch the first five minutes of this video, where "labor" is understood to be necessarily metabolic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhrUHSD6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhrUHSD6o I cannot help you reach the intuitive judgment of "class antagonism", "ruling class", "class exploitation", etc. vis-a-vis labor being metabolic and ideas being a function of material ergo calorie affordances. It is demonstrative based on the sources I have provided.
- xtian 6y ago
  I'm not sure what you think you're proving, but to me it seems like you have a restrictive conception of human meaning and spirituality that you're trying to forcefully ascribe to Marx.

by xtian 6y ago

achillesheels 6y ago

"Does it require deep intuition to comprehend that man’s ideas, views, and conception, in one word, man’s consciousness, changes with every change in the conditions of his material existence, in his social relations and in his social life? What else does the history of ideas prove, than that intellectual production changes its character in proportion as material production is changed? The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class." "But whatever form they may have taken, one fact is common to all past ages, viz., the exploitation of one part of society by the other." -Chapter II, Proletarians and Communists, Communist Manifesto And please watch the first five minutes of this video, where "labor" is understood to be necessarily metabolic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhrUHSD6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2hhrUHSD6o I cannot help you reach the intuitive judgment of "class antagonism", "ruling class", "class exploitation", etc. vis-a-vis labor being metabolic and ideas being a function of material ergo calorie affordances. It is demonstrative based on the sources I have provided.

xtian 6y ago
I'm not sure what you think you're proving, but to me it seems like you have a restrictive conception of human meaning and spirituality that you're trying to forcefully ascribe to Marx.