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We’ve had several onboarded some right out of college since quarantine started and they are all doing well. Bumping into people is actually a problem, but care

We’ve had several onboarded some right out of college since quarantine started and they are all doing well. Bumping into people is actually a problem, but career progression is less so, as there is a lot more time for 1-1 mentorship, pairing, etc. The bumping into people part can be solved though, especially with occasional in person events. We’ve had whole teams not located within our area and have worked with them just fine. Being noticed is also fine - people still give presentations, do launch events, and connect with others through managers, pms, etc.

ghaff 6y ago
>We’ve had whole teams not located within our area and have worked with them just fine. A lot of people look at in-office through the lens of entire companies or at least pretty much everyone they interact with being co-located. I, on the other hand, am on a broader team spread over about 9 time zones and, on a given day, I can be talking with people in 5 different offices plus remote/traveling. If I went into a local office pre-pandemic, there was a good chance I wouldn't run into anyone I knew.
- Pokepokalypse 6y ago
  I worked in distributed teams (though in a local office) for about 10 years. The organization was fairly good at this, in terms of structure and policy and procedure. In fact, we would very frequently run short-term projects where teams formed, and then broke up at the end. Furthermore, we frequently did collaboration with external groups (particularly when we were collaborating with a client). I really miss working there, and wish I could go back. Switching to a traditional in-office company 3 years ago, I really tried to impress upon them how badly run they are, and how they could improve their processes - but the culture was just too ossified and toxic. People have to want to change, and the people I have worked with since then just don't want to, and they're comfortable with the inefficiencies, and enabling of toxic team members. Don't get me wrong, we have some really smart coders, but as team-mates, they're hell to work with. That said: I don't really want to go back to the office, even if it helps smooth out projects with my passive-aggressive team mates. I'd rather tough it out until I can find my way into a better employer with a sane work environment, and if that's 100% remote, that's cool.
richardwhiuk 6y ago
How is there more time for 1-1 mentorship, pairing, etc?
- ghaff 6y ago
  Not the parent but I actually have a lot more flexible time at the moment because I'm not traveling and I'm just dipping in and out of virtual events rather than attending them.

ghaff 6y ago

>We’ve had whole teams not located within our area and have worked with them just fine. A lot of people look at in-office through the lens of entire companies or at least pretty much everyone they interact with being co-located. I, on the other hand, am on a broader team spread over about 9 time zones and, on a given day, I can be talking with people in 5 different offices plus remote/traveling. If I went into a local office pre-pandemic, there was a good chance I wouldn't run into anyone I knew.

Pokepokalypse 6y ago
I worked in distributed teams (though in a local office) for about 10 years. The organization was fairly good at this, in terms of structure and policy and procedure. In fact, we would very frequently run short-term projects where teams formed, and then broke up at the end. Furthermore, we frequently did collaboration with external groups (particularly when we were collaborating with a client). I really miss working there, and wish I could go back. Switching to a traditional in-office company 3 years ago, I really tried to impress upon them how badly run they are, and how they could improve their processes - but the culture was just too ossified and toxic. People have to want to change, and the people I have worked with since then just don't want to, and they're comfortable with the inefficiencies, and enabling of toxic team members. Don't get me wrong, we have some really smart coders, but as team-mates, they're hell to work with. That said: I don't really want to go back to the office, even if it helps smooth out projects with my passive-aggressive team mates. I'd rather tough it out until I can find my way into a better employer with a sane work environment, and if that's 100% remote, that's cool.

richardwhiuk 6y ago

How is there more time for 1-1 mentorship, pairing, etc?

ghaff 6y ago
Not the parent but I actually have a lot more flexible time at the moment because I'm not traveling and I'm just dipping in and out of virtual events rather than attending them.