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>Anyone else who worries about Firefox's market share? At which point does it becomes difficult for Mozilla to fund the research and development of Firefox? I

>Anyone else who worries about Firefox's market share? At which point does it becomes difficult for Mozilla to fund the research and development of Firefox? I am curious about this as well. I feel like Firefox/Mozilla died years ago. At least 5 years ago. The only things I've really heard out of Mozilla is how they are battling 'systemic racism' and how the internet needs more deplatforming and how Trump is reprehensible and a white supremacist. Oh wait why is Mozilla going into US politics? Isn't that in direct violation of their 501c3 status? Why are they so concerned with US politics and not their products?

gjsman-1000 6y ago
Exactly. They were dead to me around 2016. It's really self-defeating. They think that talking politics makes a difference (even though how many people listen to Mozilla on politics? Anyone?), while neglecting the core product which allows them to have a platform in the first place.
adamrezich 6y ago
one could reasonably fairly argue that Microsoft and Google are also involved in US politics and that Mozilla is no different in this regard. (obviously both of those corporations are much, much larger than Mozilla.) but still, I liked Mozilla much better when they were the independent browser company with no views on social justice outside of their own walls. whenever corporations or previously non-political non-profits start becoming overtly political, I don't want anything to do with them if at all possible. which is increasingly difficult these days as everyone seems 100% willing to pretend like corporations are people and as such can have views on opinions about politics and social justice and such. there is no shortage of outspoken activism on the Internet, attaching your company's (and product's) cart to any sort of political horse is just stupid, and makes me respect said company and product much, much less. when was the last time someone said to themselves, "man, I just can't bring myself to give a single shit about #BlackLivesMatter (or whatever other current political issue)... oh wait! what's this? my favorite browser/code editor/etc. is posting tweets about it? well, now, that changes everything! sure, all these other major corporations are talking about these things, absolutely inundating my social feeds with it, but... my favorite browser/code editor/etc.? jeez! I guess I'd better pay attention!" really getting sick of this—entirely independent of what I think about any of these social/political issues. I can form my own opinions based upon my consumption of the vast amounts of political takes that I see every day on the Internet, without the input of your company/product, thank you very much. also, all of these other takes I consume are from people, individuals instead of corporations-pretending-to-be-individuals-for-political-purposes. it's not like you're not trying to increase your market share or bottom line or anything by grifting off of these causes. man, it sucks though... I was that weird kid who frequently wore a Firefox t-shirt to high school in the mid 00s. I used to be such a fan.

gjsman-1000 6y ago

Exactly. They were dead to me around 2016. It's really self-defeating. They think that talking politics makes a difference (even though how many people listen to Mozilla on politics? Anyone?), while neglecting the core product which allows them to have a platform in the first place.

adamrezich 6y ago

one could reasonably fairly argue that Microsoft and Google are also involved in US politics and that Mozilla is no different in this regard. (obviously both of those corporations are much, much larger than Mozilla.) but still, I liked Mozilla much better when they were the independent browser company with no views on social justice outside of their own walls. whenever corporations or previously non-political non-profits start becoming overtly political, I don't want anything to do with them if at all possible. which is increasingly difficult these days as everyone seems 100% willing to pretend like corporations are people and as such can have views on opinions about politics and social justice and such. there is no shortage of outspoken activism on the Internet, attaching your company's (and product's) cart to any sort of political horse is just stupid, and makes me respect said company and product much, much less. when was the last time someone said to themselves, "man, I just can't bring myself to give a single shit about #BlackLivesMatter (or whatever other current political issue)... oh wait! what's this? my favorite browser/code editor/etc. is posting tweets about it? well, now, that changes everything! sure, all these other major corporations are talking about these things, absolutely inundating my social feeds with it, but... my favorite browser/code editor/etc.? jeez! I guess I'd better pay attention!" really getting sick of this—entirely independent of what I think about any of these social/political issues. I can form my own opinions based upon my consumption of the vast amounts of political takes that I see every day on the Internet, without the input of your company/product, thank you very much. also, all of these other takes I consume are from people, individuals instead of corporations-pretending-to-be-individuals-for-political-purposes. it's not like you're not trying to increase your market share or bottom line or anything by grifting off of these causes. man, it sucks though... I was that weird kid who frequently wore a Firefox t-shirt to high school in the mid 00s. I used to be such a fan.