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> The Lightning port was shipping years ahead of something like USB-C. Sure, it would be nice if they switched now. If Apple can fix their supply of USB-C port

> The Lightning port was shipping years ahead of something like USB-C. Sure, it would be nice if they switched now. If Apple can fix their supply of USB-C ports so they uniformly, consistently last for more than just 6-12 months instead of some do and some don’t, I’d be onboard for switching. As it is, it is frustratingly common for Apple Lightning plugs to wear out the fingers and Apple USB-C ports to lose their “click” (even when just standing in a laptop cradle on a desk and otherwise covered with a port plug when carried around).

pfranz 6y ago
I haven't heard of or experienced those issues directly =/ The only issue I've hit myself is lint getting packed into the port which is fairly easily cleaned but annoying if you don't have a tool handy. I have heard lots of stories about the cable fatiguing. My suspicion is that's because of using the phone while charging; heating and bending the cable near the connector. I haven't experienced this (I tend not to charge while using it) but have friends that do. I haven't seen or heard of an issue with USB-C ports. My beefs are that there isn't enough, you can't get more with a hub, and generic power supplies and cables have only been available in the past couple years. The older devices I had with USB-C I got rid of when they fixed the keyboard. I definitely had them longer then 6-12 months.
MrBuddyCasino 6y ago
> it is frustratingly common for Apple Lightning plugs to wear out the fingers I have only experienced this with 3rd party cables, but never ones made by Apple.
- Joker_vD 6y ago
  Another reason why Lighning is inferior to USB: the USB cables can be cheap and of good quality.
  - kalleboo 6y ago
    You're being heavily downvoted but this is my experience as well. Even Lightning cables from "alright" brands like Amazon Basics have lots of issues, whereas the only microUSB cables I've had issues with are the really bargain basement stuff that comes bundled with aliexpress junk. It seems the required tolerances for Lightning are way higher (=more expensive). I don't have enough experience with cheap USB-C cables to make generalizations there though.
tatersolid 6y ago
> it is frustratingly common for Apple Lightning plugs to wear out the fingers This is a feature. If the metal inside the port wore out instead repairs would be a lot more expensive. I’ve also only experienced lightning plug wear with cheap Amazon Basics or gas-station cables. The Apple lightning cables have much better made plugs, but they have a different flaw: the super-thin outer cover detaches from the connector housing over time, exposing the shielding wire.
- mason55 6y ago
  It was also one of the major benefits in the (fast) transition from mini USB to micro USB! Mini usb had a bad habit of wearing out the port instead of the plug.
- kalleboo 6y ago
  In Lightning, the moving/springy parts are in the port, not the cable (unlike USB-C where it's the cable that wears out)
jdeibele 6y ago
I have an iPhone and AirPods, both with the Lightning port. I charge them every night with $7-$10 Qi chargers from Amazon. I've read that doing wirelessly charges slower but that's supposed to be better for the battery. Rarely do I use a Lightning cable anymore. I bought an Apple Watch and there's nothing but an option to wirelessly charge it. Before that I would have been skeptical about the idea that Apple is not going to switch to USB-C but instead just use wireless charging. Now it seems reasonable. PS: I had used various Bluetooth headphones before. The killer features of the AirPods Pro are their small size (I can fit the case in my coin pocket) and the ability to skip 30 seconds ahead in podcasts. I had used various Garmin Vivofits and loved that they lasted a year on a coin battery or two. But I found that "completing my circles" on my Apple Watch was just enough gamification that I'm moving significantly more than I did before I got the watch. It does make me understand why some health care organizations give them out to members to try and get them to move more. I switched from the SE to the 6 because the SE takes 2 1/2 hours to charge instead of the 6's 1 1/2. It's still annoying to have something that requires such attention to keeping it charged and then charges so slowly. But the trade-off was worth it for me.

pfranz 6y ago

I haven't heard of or experienced those issues directly =/ The only issue I've hit myself is lint getting packed into the port which is fairly easily cleaned but annoying if you don't have a tool handy. I have heard lots of stories about the cable fatiguing. My suspicion is that's because of using the phone while charging; heating and bending the cable near the connector. I haven't experienced this (I tend not to charge while using it) but have friends that do. I haven't seen or heard of an issue with USB-C ports. My beefs are that there isn't enough, you can't get more with a hub, and generic power supplies and cables have only been available in the past couple years. The older devices I had with USB-C I got rid of when they fixed the keyboard. I definitely had them longer then 6-12 months.

MrBuddyCasino 6y ago

> it is frustratingly common for Apple Lightning plugs to wear out the fingers I have only experienced this with 3rd party cables, but never ones made by Apple.

Joker_vD 6y ago
Another reason why Lighning is inferior to USB: the USB cables can be cheap and of good quality.
- kalleboo 6y ago
  You're being heavily downvoted but this is my experience as well. Even Lightning cables from "alright" brands like Amazon Basics have lots of issues, whereas the only microUSB cables I've had issues with are the really bargain basement stuff that comes bundled with aliexpress junk. It seems the required tolerances for Lightning are way higher (=more expensive). I don't have enough experience with cheap USB-C cables to make generalizations there though.

tatersolid 6y ago

> it is frustratingly common for Apple Lightning plugs to wear out the fingers This is a feature. If the metal inside the port wore out instead repairs would be a lot more expensive. I’ve also only experienced lightning plug wear with cheap Amazon Basics or gas-station cables. The Apple lightning cables have much better made plugs, but they have a different flaw: the super-thin outer cover detaches from the connector housing over time, exposing the shielding wire.

mason55 6y ago
It was also one of the major benefits in the (fast) transition from mini USB to micro USB! Mini usb had a bad habit of wearing out the port instead of the plug.
kalleboo 6y ago
In Lightning, the moving/springy parts are in the port, not the cable (unlike USB-C where it's the cable that wears out)

jdeibele 6y ago

I have an iPhone and AirPods, both with the Lightning port. I charge them every night with $7-$10 Qi chargers from Amazon. I've read that doing wirelessly charges slower but that's supposed to be better for the battery. Rarely do I use a Lightning cable anymore. I bought an Apple Watch and there's nothing but an option to wirelessly charge it. Before that I would have been skeptical about the idea that Apple is not going to switch to USB-C but instead just use wireless charging. Now it seems reasonable. PS: I had used various Bluetooth headphones before. The killer features of the AirPods Pro are their small size (I can fit the case in my coin pocket) and the ability to skip 30 seconds ahead in podcasts. I had used various Garmin Vivofits and loved that they lasted a year on a coin battery or two. But I found that "completing my circles" on my Apple Watch was just enough gamification that I'm moving significantly more than I did before I got the watch. It does make me understand why some health care organizations give them out to members to try and get them to move more. I switched from the SE to the 6 because the SE takes 2 1/2 hours to charge instead of the 6's 1 1/2. It's still annoying to have something that requires such attention to keeping it charged and then charges so slowly. But the trade-off was worth it for me.