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you’re insinuating that adhd (or, executive functions disorders) don’t exist. 1. there is lots of evidence showing that “something” is wrong with lots of peopl
by iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
you’re insinuating that adhd (or, executive functions disorders) don’t exist.
1. there is lots of evidence showing that “something” is wrong with lots of peoples executive functions and that this observed problem is hereditary.
2. this is pretty insensitive.
everybody does have these symptoms to some extent as you executive functions can’t be running 100% all the time. just like everyone has varying degrees of sight. it’s only a problem when it negatively impacts your life.
for someone with an executive function disorder the symptoms happen often enough and with enough severity to materially impact their ability to; do work, have friends, be organised etc.
not like, oh i forgot the milk (though, that happens) but like: “oh, i forgot i was brushing my teeth and now i’m searching for rubber gloves to replace the ones with a hole in from the kitchen, where did i leave my tooth brush?”
the meds impact people with an executive function disorder little differently too, they return executive function to normal. so, while you maybe amped up on amphetamines to some degree your head is clear , your ability to pick which questions to answer, which rabbit holes to explore, to maintain more than 1 thing in your head at a time is restored. for 4-8 hours a day you get to be somewhat like your peers.
- esyir 6y agoThat's a pretty uncharitable take of his view. Rather, he seems to be claiming that it's heavily overdiagnosed. Looking at the numbers, I'm leaning towards that too. 9.4 percent of children are diagnosed with ADHD, and that's just the confirmed cases, nothing about estimated prevalence. Either we're screwing up the diagnostic criteria and overlabelling people (or worse, we're diagnosing them out of convenience), or we've seriously fucked our own society in ways that aggravate this, and medication is at best a stopgap.
- jasonkester 6y agoTo be fair, this response was likely written in response to the second paragraph of my comment, which I have since removed (since it could be read to mean exactly what the comment in question understood it to). So it’s probably not as uncharitable as you think from reading it in its current context.
- sjg007 6y agoIncidence rate is probably higher than you think. Average college enrollment rate is less than 50%. Worse, 25% of kids drop out of high school. Also the kids who have been expelled due to behavioral problems.
- majewsky 6y ago> we've seriously fucked our own society in ways that aggravate this My money is on this option. We have so much more things to cope with, and so much more change in these things to cope with, than we would have had 1000 years ago. I can imagine that this constant information overload would push some people over the edge that would have functioned well in an earlier society. (Disclaimer: I'm not a specialist in psychiatry or anything like that.)
- esyir 6y agoThere's also the possibility that we're patholgizing normal behaviour. I'm not leaving that out as an option.
- LocalH 6y ago>we've seriously fucked our own society in ways that aggravate this, and medication is at best a stopgap. My gut feeling is that overcoming this is a big part of the true solution.
- nullserver 6y agoGrowing up my mom was often impossible to understand. She would change topics 3 times in a single sentence. Basically every child and grandchild has been diagnosed with ADHD, or really needs to get tested.