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We're going to need a citation for this claim

• ncmncm 6y ago
  Is that a threat? Who is "we"? Obviously I have no way to show you Facebook proprietary source code, but equally obviously Facebook can make their code do anything they like, including MITMing on an account-by-account basis. That is always true when all the code in use is controlled by a single closed organization.
  • avh02 6y ago
    > Is that a threat? Who is "we"? Nope, just an expectation that sweeping claims get backed up either by reasoning (like you just did) or a source As for your reasoning vs your claim: you had made it seem like there was some well-known flaw or tool within FB to disable/intercept E2E. Or that we should expect an E2E-disabler functionality already exists. I'm no FB developer, but I doubt it's as simple as one or two rogue developers adding in an "intercept mark's messages" functionality. > That is always true when all the code in use is controlled by a single closed organization. Fair enough, but FB/whatsapp messengers are probably some of the most scrutinized by third parties, as well as developers who would sooner or later blow the whistle (would hope so anyway). I would not take "mark is on signal so his messengers suck" to be a reasonable conclusion - and I'm not even FB's biggest fan.
    • ncmncm 6y ago
      Do you imagine it is even possible that FB has not yet been served a National Security letter demanding backdoor access, on demand, to any WA account of the spooks' choice? Or that there would be any technical difficulty in complying with such an order?