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This happens after alcohol abuse too. If you abuse alcohol enough, you cannot enjoy stuff without alcohol. It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101.

This happens after alcohol abuse too. If you abuse alcohol enough, you cannot enjoy stuff without alcohol. It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101. Your are not going to take speed every day for years and function normally, and you will literally need confirmation bias to make sense of that reality. Also, here is another weird tidbit from life. You might not like the stuff you used to like anymore but you won’t even know since you are sure it’s the disease.

lfowles 6y ago
This was a major symptom that led me to seek a diagnosis. I was never diagnosed/medicated for ADHD until I was 25.
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  This was a major contributor for me too. Also alcohol abuse as self medication which is extraordinarily common in undiagnosed adult ADHD cases.
  - scns 6y ago
    Smoking tobacco too
    - eyelidlessness 6y ago
      That’s also true. And also a stimulant that has relaxing effects.
dragonwriter 6y ago
Just because you have intense experience with addiction doesn’t mean every other problem people have in life is addiction with a cheap disguise.
Ancapistani 6y ago
> It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101. Funny you should say that, as there is much research to say that ADHD is primarily a resistance to dopamine and serotonin. See: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201511/iron-dopamine-and-adhd https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolutionary-psychia... This is how Ritalin works, by slowing down the reputable of dopamine. So, imagine the state of anhedonia you’re familiar with from long-term drug abuse - then imagine that is your base state.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  It’s a Dopamine (mostly) and slight Serotonin re-uptake inhibitor. In the most basic explanation, more of those two things makes you feel good about whatever it is you are doing. It’s euphoric in it’s onset. If you play games with this daily you will need to believe that all hard work should be primed with a natural feeling of euphoria.
iovrthoughtthis 6y ago
it’s super clear you’ve struggled through a lot. i hope one day you get the help you need.
- runawaybottle 6y ago
  Oh I got my help. I bottomed out, often the only way. Took years of bullshitting, but the dosage just ramps up and up and up. If you start the kids on it that young, up the pressure, and put them in the same room where everyone else is doped up on it, I can promise you will cook an entire generation of knowledge workers by the time they are 30.

lfowles 6y ago

This was a major symptom that led me to seek a diagnosis. I was never diagnosed/medicated for ADHD until I was 25.

eyelidlessness 6y ago
This was a major contributor for me too. Also alcohol abuse as self medication which is extraordinarily common in undiagnosed adult ADHD cases.
- scns 6y ago
  Smoking tobacco too
  - eyelidlessness 6y ago
    That’s also true. And also a stimulant that has relaxing effects.

dragonwriter 6y ago

Just because you have intense experience with addiction doesn’t mean every other problem people have in life is addiction with a cheap disguise.

Ancapistani 6y ago

> It fries your dopamine receptors, this is drugs 101. Funny you should say that, as there is much research to say that ADHD is primarily a resistance to dopamine and serotonin. See: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201511/iron-dopamine-and-adhd https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/evolutionary-psychia... This is how Ritalin works, by slowing down the reputable of dopamine. So, imagine the state of anhedonia you’re familiar with from long-term drug abuse - then imagine that is your base state.

runawaybottle 6y ago
It’s a Dopamine (mostly) and slight Serotonin re-uptake inhibitor. In the most basic explanation, more of those two things makes you feel good about whatever it is you are doing. It’s euphoric in it’s onset. If you play games with this daily you will need to believe that all hard work should be primed with a natural feeling of euphoria.

iovrthoughtthis 6y ago

it’s super clear you’ve struggled through a lot. i hope one day you get the help you need.

runawaybottle 6y ago
Oh I got my help. I bottomed out, often the only way. Took years of bullshitting, but the dosage just ramps up and up and up. If you start the kids on it that young, up the pressure, and put them in the same room where everyone else is doped up on it, I can promise you will cook an entire generation of knowledge workers by the time they are 30.