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Stone age humans are hardly the standard we should be aspiring for. The biggest two arguments for veganism are: 1. The horrific practises of the animal agricul

Stone age humans are hardly the standard we should be aspiring for. The biggest two arguments for veganism are: 1. The horrific practises of the animal agriculture industry, which looks nothing like a chiseled hunter holding a bow 2. The devastating impact of the above on the environment Cavemen had neither of these issues.

mkoubaa 6y ago
While true, there are a lot of invasive (read: habitat destroying) animal species in North America (for example) and we got rid of most of the wolves, so hunting wild game should be a viable alternative to veganism for exactly those reasons.
- hollerith 6y ago
  The fraction of the US population that can be fed by hunting is very small, though. There just arent that many wild animals.
  - mkoubaa 6y ago
    I don't dispute this, but until its saturated it has to be counted as an alternative.
mrkstu 6y ago
Cavemen certainly had the second issue. Large mammals have been going extinct at the hand of man for a loooooong time.
throwawayboise 6y ago
If I were an animal, I might rather be killed humanely in a slaughterhouse than clubbed and stabbed to death by a band of cavemen.
- uxcolumbo 6y ago
  So I take it you’d also prefer your beak to be cut, because your captors are trying to stop your kind from pecking each other to death, because you are being held captive in extremely crammed living spaces to save money and to create more profit out of your life. Seriously, watch any factory farm video and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to wish that kind of life for yourself. But the good thing now is we neither have to club animals to death like cavemen or factory farm animals as our society does now. We can choose to be cruelty free.
amanaplanacanal 6y ago
We wouldn’t have those issues either if we would just stop having so many babies.
- nish1500 5y ago
  You'd honestly rather tell people to not have babies rather than swap out their beef burger for a Beyond burger?
  - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    Too many people is causing a lot more problems that switching to a beyond burger is not going to solve. Climate change is just one of those problems.

mkoubaa 6y ago

While true, there are a lot of invasive (read: habitat destroying) animal species in North America (for example) and we got rid of most of the wolves, so hunting wild game should be a viable alternative to veganism for exactly those reasons.

hollerith 6y ago
The fraction of the US population that can be fed by hunting is very small, though. There just arent that many wild animals.
- mkoubaa 6y ago
  I don't dispute this, but until its saturated it has to be counted as an alternative.

mrkstu 6y ago

Cavemen certainly had the second issue. Large mammals have been going extinct at the hand of man for a loooooong time.

throwawayboise 6y ago

If I were an animal, I might rather be killed humanely in a slaughterhouse than clubbed and stabbed to death by a band of cavemen.

uxcolumbo 6y ago
So I take it you’d also prefer your beak to be cut, because your captors are trying to stop your kind from pecking each other to death, because you are being held captive in extremely crammed living spaces to save money and to create more profit out of your life. Seriously, watch any factory farm video and I’m sure you wouldn’t want to wish that kind of life for yourself. But the good thing now is we neither have to club animals to death like cavemen or factory farm animals as our society does now. We can choose to be cruelty free.

amanaplanacanal 6y ago

We wouldn’t have those issues either if we would just stop having so many babies.

nish1500 5y ago
You'd honestly rather tell people to not have babies rather than swap out their beef burger for a Beyond burger?
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  Too many people is causing a lot more problems that switching to a beyond burger is not going to solve. Climate change is just one of those problems.