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It will probably just stay the same as now. People will buy based on a perception of brand quality based on reliability, coupled with how the car looks on the

It will probably just stay the same as now. People will buy based on a perception of brand quality based on reliability, coupled with how the car looks on the inside and outside.

naskwo 6y ago
My point for trying start a HN discussion on this topic is exactly this: I think that "perception" will be more narrow than it is now, as all cars look more and more alike, and the quantifiable differences such as: - range - safety features - audio system - etc - acceleration Will be more difficult for high-end brands (Range Roger, Porsche) to use as discerning factors if the "heart" of the vehicle is largely identical between a Kia and a Porsche. Will luxury car makers go to the way of Vertu vs. iPhone, or Omega vs. Apple Watch?
- easton 6y ago
  People still buy Omega and Rolex even if they don’t wear them every day. My dad uses a Fitbit instead of an Apple Watch so he can wear his nice watch and still get the data. In the car market, the “heart” has been the same for a long time. The Honda Accord has about as luxurious (at least 90%, you get leather, great driving sensors, strong V6, etc.) of any luxury sedan under 100k, but people still buy those. Those brands mean something to people.
  - throw1234651234 6y ago
    This is a super interesting topic to me - I basically don't consider buying anything other than a Civic. A new car is a HUGE expense to me (that I have never made in my life yet), but the more I think about it, the more ridiculous the inflation on a BMW 3-series (for example) becomes. People are genuinely paying an extra $20,000 for the badge. At least in the US, where parts, labor, and all associated costs are also more expensive on OEM imports. The mental coping mechanism is also the fact that Honda/Toyota make a ridiculous amounts of civics/corollas/accords/camrys, so they have to have efficiencies of scale going for them more so than other company's line ups.
- turtlebits 6y ago
  Once charging is widely available/reliable and the luxury makers can compete on range, it will be the same playing field as it is for non-EVs.
johnsonap 6y ago
Yeah I was going to ask a similar question, which is for the average family sedan, I wonder how much the average person cares about anything beyond creature comforts/saftey that would also be differentiable in an EV. I doubt families are making decisions around the powertrain beyond MPGs/efficiency, which would also be differentiable by way of range
- throw1234651234 6y ago
  Well, there is the performance crowd who cares about RPM and dropping the clutch, but my understanding is that they are such a tiny % that companies only care for them for being able to associate good qualities of the "sports" cars with their main line.
throwaway0a5e 6y ago
> People will buy based on a perception of a perception of brand quality based on perception of a perception of reliability Fixed that for you. Consumers are fickle.
- NDizzle 6y ago
  Found On Road Dead, FORD, coming to a new generation of automobile consumers!

It will probably just stay the same as now. People will buy based on a perception of brand quality based on reliability, coupled with how the car looks on the inside and outside.

naskwo 6y ago

My point for trying start a HN discussion on this topic is exactly this: I think that "perception" will be more narrow than it is now, as all cars look more and more alike, and the quantifiable differences such as: - range - safety features - audio system - etc - acceleration Will be more difficult for high-end brands (Range Roger, Porsche) to use as discerning factors if the "heart" of the vehicle is largely identical between a Kia and a Porsche. Will luxury car makers go to the way of Vertu vs. iPhone, or Omega vs. Apple Watch?

easton 6y ago
People still buy Omega and Rolex even if they don’t wear them every day. My dad uses a Fitbit instead of an Apple Watch so he can wear his nice watch and still get the data. In the car market, the “heart” has been the same for a long time. The Honda Accord has about as luxurious (at least 90%, you get leather, great driving sensors, strong V6, etc.) of any luxury sedan under 100k, but people still buy those. Those brands mean something to people.
- throw1234651234 6y ago
  This is a super interesting topic to me - I basically don't consider buying anything other than a Civic. A new car is a HUGE expense to me (that I have never made in my life yet), but the more I think about it, the more ridiculous the inflation on a BMW 3-series (for example) becomes. People are genuinely paying an extra $20,000 for the badge. At least in the US, where parts, labor, and all associated costs are also more expensive on OEM imports. The mental coping mechanism is also the fact that Honda/Toyota make a ridiculous amounts of civics/corollas/accords/camrys, so they have to have efficiencies of scale going for them more so than other company's line ups.
turtlebits 6y ago
Once charging is widely available/reliable and the luxury makers can compete on range, it will be the same playing field as it is for non-EVs.

johnsonap 6y ago

Yeah I was going to ask a similar question, which is for the average family sedan, I wonder how much the average person cares about anything beyond creature comforts/saftey that would also be differentiable in an EV. I doubt families are making decisions around the powertrain beyond MPGs/efficiency, which would also be differentiable by way of range

throw1234651234 6y ago
Well, there is the performance crowd who cares about RPM and dropping the clutch, but my understanding is that they are such a tiny % that companies only care for them for being able to associate good qualities of the "sports" cars with their main line.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

> People will buy based on a perception of a perception of brand quality based on perception of a perception of reliability Fixed that for you. Consumers are fickle.

NDizzle 6y ago
Found On Road Dead, FORD, coming to a new generation of automobile consumers!