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> However, when she searched for the name of the video on Google in January, it still returned 1,900 results. It seems that although Pornhub had removed the vi
by cblconfederate 6y ago
> However, when she searched for the name of the video on Google in January, it still returned 1,900 results. It seems that although Pornhub had removed the video, it still kept thumbnails of the naked images. Because those thumbnails still existed, a Google search would find – and display - those naked images. She realized the only way to eliminate those was to get Pornhub to remove all traces of the thumbnail images.
It seems the problem was / is Google (and not pornhub), because makes it impossible to remove stuff from the internet fast enough to prevent damage. I wonder why the article doesn't consider it. Google should have an on demand mechanism to instantly deletes all text/images that match a fingerprint .
- elliekelly 6y agoPerhaps I’m not understanding but why couldn’t PH just remove the thumbnails so they couldn’t be indexed anymore? Sure, Google should have a mechanism so material like that isn’t indexed but Google isn’t the only search engine and PH shouldn’t be hosting that content, not even as a thumbnail.
- MattGaiser 6y ago> why couldn’t PH just remove the thumbnails so they couldn’t be indexed anymore? > Kevin responded again, insisting that Pornhub “can NOT” remove content from other sites. However, that doesn’t seem to be completely accurate. Pornhub offers something called its “exclusive model program,” which promises that it will send takedown notices to any website to “help protect your content from being uploaded to other websites.” I am not sure that PornHub actually hosts those thumbnails or necessarily controls them. Sending a takedown notice indicates to me that they don't control that content. They would just be requesting removal.
- cblconfederate 6y agoEven if they did remove it, how long would it take for google to remove their copy? That's why it's better to have an on-demand mechanism to remove content.
- mrweasel 6y agoGoogle do have to comply with EUs right to be forgotten, but I don’t know how they deal with images. Your right that we really can’t remove stuff fast enough. There will almost always be a copy somewhere.
- ggggtez 6y agoAs far as I understand it, if PH stopped hosting the thumbnails, then Google would stop showing them. The problem is that PH didn't actually remove the thumbnails.
- nunez 6y agoI don't even think they own all of them? There are a billionty porn site aggregators that pull from Pornhub and get ranked on Google, Bing, and other search engines. Is removing _all_ traces of this video even a tractable problem?
- zepto 6y agoYes - the video / thumbnails to be removed can be hashed in various ways. The hashes can be made public. A court can order videos or thumbnails matching the hash to be removed, and levy penalties against anyone still hosting them after a period of time. It’s a less complex problem than policing use of copyrighted music on YouTube videos, and that has been achieved.
- pgsimp 6y agoHow will the sites in question learn of that court order? YouTube is one centralized site, that's different to the internet as a whole.
- zepto 6y agoThe hashes would be stored somewhere central. Sites would be motivated to check it regularly to avoid being out of compliance.
- pgsimp 6y agoThat assumes all thumbnails or pictures hash to the same value. Why would that be? There can be different algorithms, resolutions, crops... And there can be millions of thumbnails to check.
- zakki 6y agoIf Google removed it from their search result it is true that most people will not see/find it. But her video/thumbnail is still all over the internet. But if the (porn) sites removed the video/ thumbnail it will be gone from google search as well
- visarga 6y agoand only live on archive.org and other places