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> 3. Germans have by and large quit smoking. Eh? How is stopping smoking a "US thing"? Surely it's a result of public health campaigns and regulations slowly i

> 3. Germans have by and large quit smoking. Eh? How is stopping smoking a "US thing"? Surely it's a result of public health campaigns and regulations slowly introduced over decades?

thirtythree 6y ago
And these laws were passed in some European countries before the USA introduced them
WalterBright 6y ago
The US was about 20 years ahead in pushing smoking to the margins.
- danielscrubs 6y ago
  Just to play the devils advocate. USA has double the smoking rate (per capita) than in my country (2017). Germany was very,very early with anti-tobacco campaigns: “in 1929 (presumably too late to be included in the handbook) the German physician, Fritz Lickint published a paper in which he showed that lung cancer patients were particularly likely to be smokers. He then went on a crusade against smoking, and antitobacco activism actually became widespread in Germany.” Hollywood was one of the main proponents of marketing cigarettes. See also the newish American trend of vaping. America is the forth largest producer of cigarettes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigaret... https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-smoking-rate-what-world-can-learn-2017-6?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-smoking-rate-what-wor...
  - WalterBright 6y ago
    The fact remains, in the 1980s in Germany if you walked into any business office there was a choking blue haze like in 1960s America. It was inescapable. It was starkly obvious if you traveled back and forth between the US and Germany in the 1980s. In the 80s US businesses had done a good job of pushing the smokers out on the porch. I never thought that would work, but it did, and smoking became generally recognized as the filthy habit that it was. My '72 Dodge hasn't seen a cigarette since the 1980s and still smells like smoke :-)

> 3. Germans have by and large quit smoking. Eh? How is stopping smoking a "US thing"? Surely it's a result of public health campaigns and regulations slowly introduced over decades?

thirtythree 6y ago

And these laws were passed in some European countries before the USA introduced them

WalterBright 6y ago

The US was about 20 years ahead in pushing smoking to the margins.

danielscrubs 6y ago
Just to play the devils advocate. USA has double the smoking rate (per capita) than in my country (2017). Germany was very,very early with anti-tobacco campaigns: “in 1929 (presumably too late to be included in the handbook) the German physician, Fritz Lickint published a paper in which he showed that lung cancer patients were particularly likely to be smokers. He then went on a crusade against smoking, and antitobacco activism actually became widespread in Germany.” Hollywood was one of the main proponents of marketing cigarettes. See also the newish American trend of vaping. America is the forth largest producer of cigarettes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigarette_consumption_per_capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_cigaret... https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-smoking-rate-what-world-can-learn-2017-6?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-smoking-rate-what-wor...
- WalterBright 6y ago
  The fact remains, in the 1980s in Germany if you walked into any business office there was a choking blue haze like in 1960s America. It was inescapable. It was starkly obvious if you traveled back and forth between the US and Germany in the 1980s. In the 80s US businesses had done a good job of pushing the smokers out on the porch. I never thought that would work, but it did, and smoking became generally recognized as the filthy habit that it was. My '72 Dodge hasn't seen a cigarette since the 1980s and still smells like smoke :-)