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Netflix is moving into European production because governements subsidies it. It's a pure commercial move , Netflix doesn't care at all about the respective cul

Netflix is moving into European production because governements subsidies it. It's a pure commercial move , Netflix doesn't care at all about the respective culture of 20+ country of UE. I'm From France , my country back movies with hundreds of millions of funding every year. New European laws are forcing governements to open those fundings to "Foreign Institutions", that's why they are making this move. This law enable Netflix to make content much cheaper using public funding while using each country culture to improve customer retention. As a French coming from African descent I'm absolutly terrified of what they are going to do with character like Napoleon or Charles de Gaulles... Lupin show a clear tendency to override history fidelity toward a much more political narrative... It's frightening because they is literally THOUSANDS of story that do contain French coming from African Descent or Foreigners soldiers who decided to fought for France[0] Seeing Big tech taking over everything with a political agenda is deeply saddening. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs

tim333 6y ago
Maybe Africa could follow the EU example and twist Netflix's arm to make some African centered content? I'm in Egypt at the moment and you could do quite a lot of interesting stuff beyond the usual mummies coming to life and attacking people that Hollywood seems to like.
- txdv 6y ago
  Mummies with machine guns?
- ketzo 6y ago
  I really hoped that Black Panther (the Marvel movie) was going to be the start of a new era of mainstream Afro-futurist fiction. Such an amazing genre/setting/aesthetic (depending on how it's used) that is so tragically underexplored. I've yet to see that really manifest, although I know there are sort of rumblings at the fringes -- the newest Magic: The Gathering set is explicitly paying homage to African cultures and peoples, for example.
oblio 6y ago
I haven't watched Lupin, what does it do? From a political point of view.
- nottorp 6y ago
  Well I tried, and half of each episode felt pretty fresh. Probably less Hollywood cliches. The action part, that is. However, someone decided that half of each episode should be the main character's miserable childhood. He's a poor immigrant's child whose father is blamed by the local white rich for a crime he didn't commit and dies in prison, leaving our main character an orphan. We're getting shown that in excruciating detail. They basically spliced together a pretty good action-ish/heist movie and a depressing festival movie designed to take golden globes or something. At least for the first 4-5 episodes, because afterwards i simply stopped watching. It was either that or skip all childhood scenes, i.e. half of each episode.
culturestate 6y ago
> New European laws are forcing governements to open those fundings to "Foreign Institutions", that's why they are making this move. They're making this move because the EU mandated[1] that locally produced content comprise at least 30% of their catalog. The subsidy expansion is a byproduct of that regulation. 1. https://www.engadget.com/2018-09-04-netflix-amazon-european-content-quota-eu-law.html https://www.engadget.com/2018-09-04-netflix-amazon-european-...
pjc50 6y ago
> As a French coming from African descent I'm absolutely terrified of what they are going to do with character like Napoleon or Charles de Gaulle Could you elaborate on this?
- f6v 6y ago
  They'll get cancelled, or worse, a modern-day makeover.
  - DetroitThrow 6y ago
    While I've read a bunch of critical media of de Gaulle, much of the media I've read of Napoleon seems to be tinged with his glory - I'd actually love a more critical review of historical Napoleon given his influence on modern Europe and the West at large.
    - kazen44 6y ago
      Napoleon is kind of a.. controversial character in history. let's not forget that the late 18th century was a bloody period in european history with massive societal change. It saw the removal of old medieval systems and them being replaced by more modern ideas.
      - DetroitThrow 6y ago
        Oh, all the more reason for a more critical review of his legacy, I'm sure it'd be very interesting with a more objective/modern lens.
      - BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Absolutist monarchy is an (early) modern phenomenon, not a middle age one. Middle ages ended with the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans in 1453. In fact, wouldn't Napoleon be part (and the end ?) of the absolutist monarch phenomenon?
  - pjc50 6y ago
KaiserPro 6y ago
> Lupin show a clear tendency to override history fidelity toward a much more political narrative. As someone who is english, what am I missing? Its a modern day rebrand of a 30's crime novel no? I imagine i'd understand more if I could differentiate french accents.
- deleted 6y ago
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walshemj 6y ago
What do you think they might do? to De Gaul or Napoleon. And which political agenda do you exactly mean
schemathings 6y ago
My favorite synopsis of Napoleon is from the City of Men TV Series where the teacher explains European politics in terms of favela gangs to make it relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rByBefzeY98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rByBefzeY98 the meat is at around 22:47
jsjsbdkj 6y ago
> Lupin show a clear tendency to override history fidelity toward a much more political narrative... Lupin wasn't about recasting Lupin, it's about a modern person who is inspired by the stories. I'm not really sure what that has to do with historical fidelity? I really enjoyed it, it's a fun modern crime show that deals earnestly with issues of race in contemporary France.

tim333 6y ago

Maybe Africa could follow the EU example and twist Netflix's arm to make some African centered content? I'm in Egypt at the moment and you could do quite a lot of interesting stuff beyond the usual mummies coming to life and attacking people that Hollywood seems to like.

txdv 6y ago
Mummies with machine guns?
ketzo 6y ago
I really hoped that Black Panther (the Marvel movie) was going to be the start of a new era of mainstream Afro-futurist fiction. Such an amazing genre/setting/aesthetic (depending on how it's used) that is so tragically underexplored. I've yet to see that really manifest, although I know there are sort of rumblings at the fringes -- the newest Magic: The Gathering set is explicitly paying homage to African cultures and peoples, for example.

oblio 6y ago

I haven't watched Lupin, what does it do? From a political point of view.

nottorp 6y ago
Well I tried, and half of each episode felt pretty fresh. Probably less Hollywood cliches. The action part, that is. However, someone decided that half of each episode should be the main character's miserable childhood. He's a poor immigrant's child whose father is blamed by the local white rich for a crime he didn't commit and dies in prison, leaving our main character an orphan. We're getting shown that in excruciating detail. They basically spliced together a pretty good action-ish/heist movie and a depressing festival movie designed to take golden globes or something. At least for the first 4-5 episodes, because afterwards i simply stopped watching. It was either that or skip all childhood scenes, i.e. half of each episode.

culturestate 6y ago

> New European laws are forcing governements to open those fundings to "Foreign Institutions", that's why they are making this move. They're making this move because the EU mandated[1] that locally produced content comprise at least 30% of their catalog. The subsidy expansion is a byproduct of that regulation. 1. https://www.engadget.com/2018-09-04-netflix-amazon-european-content-quota-eu-law.html https://www.engadget.com/2018-09-04-netflix-amazon-european-...

pjc50 6y ago

> As a French coming from African descent I'm absolutely terrified of what they are going to do with character like Napoleon or Charles de Gaulle Could you elaborate on this?

f6v 6y ago
They'll get cancelled, or worse, a modern-day makeover.
- DetroitThrow 6y ago
  While I've read a bunch of critical media of de Gaulle, much of the media I've read of Napoleon seems to be tinged with his glory - I'd actually love a more critical review of historical Napoleon given his influence on modern Europe and the West at large.
  - kazen44 6y ago
    Napoleon is kind of a.. controversial character in history. let's not forget that the late 18th century was a bloody period in european history with massive societal change. It saw the removal of old medieval systems and them being replaced by more modern ideas.
    - DetroitThrow 6y ago
      Oh, all the more reason for a more critical review of his legacy, I'm sure it'd be very interesting with a more objective/modern lens.
    - BlueTemplar 6y ago
      Absolutist monarchy is an (early) modern phenomenon, not a middle age one. Middle ages ended with the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans in 1453. In fact, wouldn't Napoleon be part (and the end ?) of the absolutist monarch phenomenon?
- pjc50 6y ago

KaiserPro 6y ago

> Lupin show a clear tendency to override history fidelity toward a much more political narrative. As someone who is english, what am I missing? Its a modern day rebrand of a 30's crime novel no? I imagine i'd understand more if I could differentiate french accents.

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walshemj 6y ago

What do you think they might do? to De Gaul or Napoleon. And which political agenda do you exactly mean

schemathings 6y ago

My favorite synopsis of Napoleon is from the City of Men TV Series where the teacher explains European politics in terms of favela gangs to make it relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rByBefzeY98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rByBefzeY98 the meat is at around 22:47

jsjsbdkj 6y ago

> Lupin show a clear tendency to override history fidelity toward a much more political narrative... Lupin wasn't about recasting Lupin, it's about a modern person who is inspired by the stories. I'm not really sure what that has to do with historical fidelity? I really enjoyed it, it's a fun modern crime show that deals earnestly with issues of race in contemporary France.