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This seems like a fairly impossible quotum to meet for streaming services that for instance serve nothing but Japanese content. — are they simply not allowed to

This seems like a fairly impossible quotum to meet for streaming services that for instance serve nothing but Japanese content. — are they simply not allowed to operate within the E.U.?

lksaar 6y ago
> 1. Member States shall ensure that on-demand audiovisual media services provided by media service providers under their jurisdiction promote, where practicable and by appropriate means, the production of and access to European works. Such promotion could relate, inter alia, to the financial contribution made by such services to the production and rights acquisition of European works or to the share and/or prominence of European works in the catalogue of programmes offered by the on-demand audiovisual media service. I would assume that falls under inpracticable. Stuff like crunchyroll is exists in the EU aswell. Article 13: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32010L0013&from=EN#d1e1876-1-1 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  If it's impractical in this case because a streaming service offers continent from outside of Europe; then the law is fairly useless. It's essentially a circular escape route of saying that it's impractical for a service to offer content produced in Europe, because the service does not offer content produced in Europe. N.b. that the law speaks of Europe, not the E.U.; that's a particularly material difference with respect to the U.K. leaving the E.U..
  - buu700 6y ago
    I assume that they would have to be prepared to explain their case to the satisfaction of a human regulator. Crunchyroll being an anime streaming service is easy to understand. On the other hand, to my knowledge Netflix has never advertised itself as a platform for exclusively American content.
    - Blikkentrekker 6y ago
      So all one needs to do is advertise oneself as such to be exempted? I doubt that, and I, frankness be, suspect there's probably going to be some very dubious standard that will no doubt even consider race and other similar tribal nonsense when deciding to allow it or not. If one deliver U.S.A. content one must deliver European content as well, for they are white, and thus they are like us, but the Japanese are not white, they are not like us, so we don't compare themselves with them, so one can offer their content without our egos feeling hurt.
      - astrange 6y ago
        Crunchyroll sponsors the production of lots of anime these days, and isn't too picky what they make (eg they've done like two fantasy novels written by misogynists about guys who travel to another world and get a sex slave.) They could sponsor adaptations of European stories, like Ghibli's already done.
daniellarusso 6y ago
Canada has a law requiring promotion of Canadian culture in tv and film, of which Netflix accommodates. It is an interesting responsibility of government stewardship/preservation of culture, I think.
- Blikkentrekker 6y ago
  I simply know many streaming services which obviously don't comply with such protectionism, yet are allowed to exist. Does Youtube count as a streaming service? What of last.fm which does need to often comply with radio laws I believe. The way I see it; if such laws were really consistently enforced then many things that exist would not be allowed to exist, and it seems to be more a matter of deciding not to enforce them based on the rather arbitrary criterion of “Do we want this service to stop existing or not?”. And who is to decide what “Canadian culture” is, and when it is “promoted”? — the way I see it, such laws must be incredibly inconsistently enforced.
  - SiempreViernes 6y ago
    What? Are you saying youtube and last.fm doesn't host music made in Europe?
    - Blikkentrekker 6y ago
      The law pertains to access, not to hosting. How last.fm works in it's streaming facility is that it creates a personalized radio station, if one will, based on past listening habits; it actually cannot allow users to select tracks, as that would not conform to radio laws. It is thus entirely possible that no European music plays, based on past listening habits.

This seems like a fairly impossible quotum to meet for streaming services that for instance serve nothing but Japanese content. — are they simply not allowed to operate within the E.U.?

lksaar 6y ago

> 1. Member States shall ensure that on-demand audiovisual media services provided by media service providers under their jurisdiction promote, where practicable and by appropriate means, the production of and access to European works. Such promotion could relate, inter alia, to the financial contribution made by such services to the production and rights acquisition of European works or to the share and/or prominence of European works in the catalogue of programmes offered by the on-demand audiovisual media service. I would assume that falls under inpracticable. Stuff like crunchyroll is exists in the EU aswell. Article 13: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32010L0013&from=EN#d1e1876-1-1 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
If it's impractical in this case because a streaming service offers continent from outside of Europe; then the law is fairly useless. It's essentially a circular escape route of saying that it's impractical for a service to offer content produced in Europe, because the service does not offer content produced in Europe. N.b. that the law speaks of Europe, not the E.U.; that's a particularly material difference with respect to the U.K. leaving the E.U..
- buu700 6y ago
  I assume that they would have to be prepared to explain their case to the satisfaction of a human regulator. Crunchyroll being an anime streaming service is easy to understand. On the other hand, to my knowledge Netflix has never advertised itself as a platform for exclusively American content.
  - Blikkentrekker 6y ago
    So all one needs to do is advertise oneself as such to be exempted? I doubt that, and I, frankness be, suspect there's probably going to be some very dubious standard that will no doubt even consider race and other similar tribal nonsense when deciding to allow it or not. If one deliver U.S.A. content one must deliver European content as well, for they are white, and thus they are like us, but the Japanese are not white, they are not like us, so we don't compare themselves with them, so one can offer their content without our egos feeling hurt.
    - astrange 6y ago
      Crunchyroll sponsors the production of lots of anime these days, and isn't too picky what they make (eg they've done like two fantasy novels written by misogynists about guys who travel to another world and get a sex slave.) They could sponsor adaptations of European stories, like Ghibli's already done.

daniellarusso 6y ago

Canada has a law requiring promotion of Canadian culture in tv and film, of which Netflix accommodates. It is an interesting responsibility of government stewardship/preservation of culture, I think.

Blikkentrekker 6y ago
I simply know many streaming services which obviously don't comply with such protectionism, yet are allowed to exist. Does Youtube count as a streaming service? What of last.fm which does need to often comply with radio laws I believe. The way I see it; if such laws were really consistently enforced then many things that exist would not be allowed to exist, and it seems to be more a matter of deciding not to enforce them based on the rather arbitrary criterion of “Do we want this service to stop existing or not?”. And who is to decide what “Canadian culture” is, and when it is “promoted”? — the way I see it, such laws must be incredibly inconsistently enforced.
- SiempreViernes 6y ago
  What? Are you saying youtube and last.fm doesn't host music made in Europe?
  - Blikkentrekker 6y ago
    The law pertains to access, not to hosting. How last.fm works in it's streaming facility is that it creates a personalized radio station, if one will, based on past listening habits; it actually cannot allow users to select tracks, as that would not conform to radio laws. It is thus entirely possible that no European music plays, based on past listening habits.