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The amount of work & installs you have to do for all that is laughable though.. assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone.. the terminal app is easy to install..

The amount of work & installs you have to do for all that is laughable though.. assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone.. the terminal app is easy to install.. small install & full on posix compliant terminal is right there w/ a more normal pkg manager to boot. I dunno shortcuts & a jailbroken iPhone is equally powerful & there’s far less tinkering involved imo. But I’m sure you’ve not used an iPhone enough to realize that.

rymate1234 6y ago
Having to jailbreak an iPhone is what makes the iPhone more work -- Termux is a single install and works on stock Android, and comes with a package manager
Abishek_Muthian 6y ago
>assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone. And the security tradeoffs therein. >But I’m sure you’ve not used an iPhone enough to realize that. Was that ad hominem necessary? I've used iOS devices regularly w/o Jailbreak since 2010 until last year. I've spent several thousand dollars personally and my business money on Apple products. My comment was purely regarding the technical nature of the OS and was not directed against any brand. I know people are religious about brands, but private businesses don't deserve such dedication and I feel it's unhealthy overall.
saagarjha 6y ago
> assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone This is a massive assumption.
- rbreaves 6y ago
  Well like I said, assuming lol. But generally speaking if I am on the terminal of iOS vs the terminal on Android I feel more confident that I can bring in whatever packages I want as it was really designed to be a full desktop class citizen underneath it all. Android in contrast is extremely locked down in other ways that simply require you to use abstraction layers to run pretty much anything. To me it's the difference between installing a full linux OS on a chromebook vs running it in chroot (crouton) or google's new virtualized method. They both have their trade offs while running a full linux OS pretty much has 0 trade offs. That's all that I was getting at. Of course there are pros to having a more locked down model at the expense of performance or being able to run something directly on metal at times. iOS is a strange combination of either being insanely secure or not so much, but in either case the raw performance and stability is almost always there in comparison.

rymate1234 6y ago

Having to jailbreak an iPhone is what makes the iPhone more work -- Termux is a single install and works on stock Android, and comes with a package manager

Abishek_Muthian 6y ago

>assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone. And the security tradeoffs therein. >But I’m sure you’ve not used an iPhone enough to realize that. Was that ad hominem necessary? I've used iOS devices regularly w/o Jailbreak since 2010 until last year. I've spent several thousand dollars personally and my business money on Apple products. My comment was purely regarding the technical nature of the OS and was not directed against any brand. I know people are religious about brands, but private businesses don't deserve such dedication and I feel it's unhealthy overall.

saagarjha 6y ago

> assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone This is a massive assumption.

rbreaves 6y ago
Well like I said, assuming lol. But generally speaking if I am on the terminal of iOS vs the terminal on Android I feel more confident that I can bring in whatever packages I want as it was really designed to be a full desktop class citizen underneath it all. Android in contrast is extremely locked down in other ways that simply require you to use abstraction layers to run pretty much anything. To me it's the difference between installing a full linux OS on a chromebook vs running it in chroot (crouton) or google's new virtualized method. They both have their trade offs while running a full linux OS pretty much has 0 trade offs. That's all that I was getting at. Of course there are pros to having a more locked down model at the expense of performance or being able to run something directly on metal at times. iOS is a strange combination of either being insanely secure or not so much, but in either case the raw performance and stability is almost always there in comparison.