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At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, righ

At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, right?

Server6 6y ago
Here's a list: Apple – American Samsung Mobile – South Korean Nokia Mobile – Finnish Google Pixel – American Sony Mobile – Japanese LG – South Korean BLU Products – American Lava – Indian Sharp – Japanese Fairphone – Dutch Philips Mobile – Dutch Yotaphone – Russian BQ – Spanish Acer – Taiwanese Asus – Taiwanese HTC – Taiwanese Essential Products – American Cherry Mobile – Philippino DoCoMo – Japanese Panasonic Mobile – Japanese. Afrione – Nigerian Mara Phone – Rwandan Librem – American
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- fomine3 6y ago
  Docomo is a carrier and just selling devices made by OEM (like Huawei), so not a manufacturer. Panasonic is abandoned long ago. Kyocera, Fujitsu still making phones in Japan.
- imiric 6y ago
  Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located. I wasn't able to track down the country of origin for many of them, but at least Fairphone is open about it, and 75% of its components are manufactured in China[1]. Apple devices are still mostly produced in China, with some smaller scale operations in India[2]. I would like to see Fairphone levels of transparency from all manufacturers, but until then it's safe to assume that any electronics are partially sourced from countries with existing manufacturing facilities and cheap labor such as China. It's a cost cutting measure that makes it unfeasible to move production elsewhere, even for giants like Apple, and downright impossible for smaller companies. [1]: https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/source-map-transparency/ https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/source-map-transparency/ [2]: https://fortune.com/2019/06/13/apple-iphone-china-production/ https://fortune.com/2019/06/13/apple-iphone-china-production...
  - fsflover 6y ago
    > Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located. Librem 5 USA is manufactured in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa.
    - imiric 6y ago
      Indeed, I forgot about that. $2k is an exhorbitant price to pay for those specs, and I consider the non-USA version expensive as well, but it's the cost of local manufacturing and I applaud Purism for the effort. Hopefully that overhead will start to diminish once more manufacturers start doing the same.
- josalhor 6y ago
  > BQ – Spanish BQ is liquidating [0]. [0]: https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq-enfila-liquidacion-fracaso-venta-socio-vietnamita/2830491/ https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq...
- qwertox 6y ago
  Gigaset - German. I don't know exactly if they let them build in China, but they claim it's "Made in Germany"
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- rchaud 6y ago
  Micromax in India assembles phones locally. Parts and design however are sourced from China. Yotaphone is primarily a carrier/networking tech company. The mobile arm that created the Yotaphone e-ink/LCD phone went bankrupt in 2019. Their last device was the China-only Yotaphone 3 in 2018 [0]. [0]https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508418/yota-devices-bankrupt-yotaphone https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508418/yota-devices-ban...
deathtrader666 6y ago
There's ASUS from Taiwan.
sanxiyn 6y ago
Samsung mobile phone manufacturing left China long time ago. Most Samsung mobile phones are manufactured in Vietnam these days.
paxys 6y ago
Practically speaking, no. After Samsung and Apple the next 10 or 15 largest smartphone manufacturers (excluding LG) are Chinese.

At this point there are basically no non-Chinese mobile phone makers aside from Samsung and Apple. And even those devices are still manufactured in China, right?

Server6 6y ago

Here's a list: Apple – American Samsung Mobile – South Korean Nokia Mobile – Finnish Google Pixel – American Sony Mobile – Japanese LG – South Korean BLU Products – American Lava – Indian Sharp – Japanese Fairphone – Dutch Philips Mobile – Dutch Yotaphone – Russian BQ – Spanish Acer – Taiwanese Asus – Taiwanese HTC – Taiwanese Essential Products – American Cherry Mobile – Philippino DoCoMo – Japanese Panasonic Mobile – Japanese. Afrione – Nigerian Mara Phone – Rwandan Librem – American

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fomine3 6y ago
Docomo is a carrier and just selling devices made by OEM (like Huawei), so not a manufacturer. Panasonic is abandoned long ago. Kyocera, Fujitsu still making phones in Japan.
imiric 6y ago
Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located. I wasn't able to track down the country of origin for many of them, but at least Fairphone is open about it, and 75% of its components are manufactured in China[1]. Apple devices are still mostly produced in China, with some smaller scale operations in India[2]. I would like to see Fairphone levels of transparency from all manufacturers, but until then it's safe to assume that any electronics are partially sourced from countries with existing manufacturing facilities and cheap labor such as China. It's a cost cutting measure that makes it unfeasible to move production elsewhere, even for giants like Apple, and downright impossible for smaller companies. [1]: https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/source-map-transparency/ https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/source-map-transparency/ [2]: https://fortune.com/2019/06/13/apple-iphone-china-production/ https://fortune.com/2019/06/13/apple-iphone-china-production...
- fsflover 6y ago
  > Thanks, but you've listed where those companies are headquartered, not where their devices are manufactured or where their main suppliers are located. Librem 5 USA is manufactured in the USA: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa https://puri.sm/products/librem-5-usa.
  - imiric 6y ago
    Indeed, I forgot about that. $2k is an exhorbitant price to pay for those specs, and I consider the non-USA version expensive as well, but it's the cost of local manufacturing and I applaud Purism for the effort. Hopefully that overhead will start to diminish once more manufacturers start doing the same.
josalhor 6y ago
> BQ – Spanish BQ is liquidating [0]. [0]: https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq-enfila-liquidacion-fracaso-venta-socio-vietnamita/2830491/ https://www.lainformacion.com/empresas/fabricante-moviles-bq...
qwertox 6y ago
Gigaset - German. I don't know exactly if they let them build in China, but they claim it's "Made in Germany"
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rchaud 6y ago
Micromax in India assembles phones locally. Parts and design however are sourced from China. Yotaphone is primarily a carrier/networking tech company. The mobile arm that created the Yotaphone e-ink/LCD phone went bankrupt in 2019. Their last device was the China-only Yotaphone 3 in 2018 [0]. [0]https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508418/yota-devices-bankrupt-yotaphone https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/19/18508418/yota-devices-ban...

deathtrader666 6y ago

There's ASUS from Taiwan.

sanxiyn 6y ago

Samsung mobile phone manufacturing left China long time ago. Most Samsung mobile phones are manufactured in Vietnam these days.

paxys 6y ago

Practically speaking, no. After Samsung and Apple the next 10 or 15 largest smartphone manufacturers (excluding LG) are Chinese.