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That's why drum and bass all sounds the same to me. Reggaeton also has a similar situation, where everyone uses the exact same beat for the rhythm. It's called
by jinushaun 15y ago
That's why drum and bass all sounds the same to me.
Reggaeton also has a similar situation, where everyone uses the exact same beat for the rhythm. It's called the "Dem Bow" beat.
- yangyang 15y agoOnly a fraction of current D&B uses the amen break. Plenty of current stuff doesn't use sampled drum loops. Loxy & Resound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mcxqhJ2j8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0mcxqhJ2j8 Consequence ft. ASC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErwdSS--cgo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErwdSS--cgo S.P.Y.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnl_EumKXX4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnl_EumKXX4
- dave1010uk 15y agoIf you haven't seen it, Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music [1] is an interesting source of how different electronic music genres evolved and are influenced. It contains example samples of many tracks and I've found whole sub-generes of electronic music that I never knew existed. [1] http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ (warning: autoplaying sound)
- meatsock 15y agoishkur contends the whole thing was a pisstake and not to be taken seriously. i count as evidence of that the fact i am included in the list as a result of responding to a thread of his at the right time. you can get a sense of his generally snide/sarcastic tone all over his site. luckily almost all real internet discourse about the guts of electronic music are sheathed in many conflicting layers of indirect subcultural references. check hyperreal.org for details =)
- rbxbx 15y agoI'm inclined to agree. Also considering the quality of info and relevance of associated audio samples. Also, meatsock? As in the dude from the c8 forums and slsk breakcore chat back in the day? Odd to catch you here. It's rob/robad/etc from sickmode etc :)
- phlux 15y agoI came to say the same... I take Ishkur's attitude much like I would Yahtzee Croshaw of the escapist... A lot of snide attitude done in character.
- dgallagher 15y agoLots of older drum and bass does sound very similar. Some of the newer stuff, like Pendulum, Sub Focus, and The Qemists, have taken the genre to the next level. It's much more interesting and exciting than in the past. Pendulum - http://www.youtube.com/user/pendulumlive#p/u/9/X6BKBIOtRXw http://www.youtube.com/user/pendulumlive#p/u/9/X6BKBIOtRXw Sub Focus - http://www.youtube.com/user/subfocustv#p/a/u/1/MYO_0Xfh58k http://www.youtube.com/user/subfocustv#p/a/u/1/MYO_0Xfh58k The Qemists - http://www.theqemists.com/youtube/video/OTGJW0-QPuw/ http://www.theqemists.com/youtube/video/OTGJW0-QPuw/
- yangyang 15y agoThere have always been loads of sub-genres. The stuff you mention there is very commercial. Looking at some of my vinyl from over 10 years ago, you can compare Jonny L http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qo1aoR96oI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qo1aoR96oI with Goldie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8 or PFM feat Conrad (from '94) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxcMPPoZI7s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxcMPPoZI7s, or Roni Size / Reprazent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwI0gbGEyuI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwI0gbGEyuI.
- empika 15y agoBBC radio one recently had a pretty good programme on the Amen: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011nyd1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011nyd1 It is a shame that the true pioneers of the break were only briefly mentioned. They would be Equinox, Bizzy B, Breakage, Fracture and Neptune, Chris Inperspective et al. Around 2006 there was a boom in what has become the "choppage" subgenre of drum and bass, revolving around the Scientific Wax, Inperspective, Bassbin and Mu record labels and the Technicality and Bassbin nights run at Herbal in London. It is a shame the R1 programme did not focus on any of this at all as alot of what came out of that pushed the break to it's listenable limits (Breakcore just baffles and confuses me). If you want a regular dose of Amen, catch Equinox and the Scientific Wax show playing on jungletrain.com every other Sunday. He will draw some of the ruffest badman tunes you'll ever hear. He is one of the worlds most highly regarded connoisseurs of the Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTeToyyYwQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRTeToyyYwQ&feature=relat...
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- cdavid 15y agoMost of the interesting stuff did not use the amen break, or used it originally. It is true that a lot of DnB and Jungle was awful and repetitive, but that's the case in most electronic genres. OTOH, timeless (Goldie), Modus Operandi (Photek), New Forms (Roni Size) were going beyond the cliches while staing in the genre in the mid-nineties. And then you have the really good stuff like squarepusher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yA8MRphI8w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yA8MRphI8w), the early Amon Tobin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj_IjGVWtVY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj_IjGVWtVY) or Spring Jeel hack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di6Mrr6yuF0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di6Mrr6yuF0&feature=relat...). A lot of hip hop originally used the funky drummer beat as well, but it has ceased to define the genre a very long time ago.
- derleth 15y ago> It is true that a lot of DnB and Jungle was awful and repetitive, but that's the case in most electronic genres. Most genres, period, in fact.