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I'm opposed to laws supporting unions in general. If workers want to voluntarily get together and agree to bargain collectively, that's great. That's really jus
by __blockcipher__ 5y ago
I'm opposed to laws supporting unions in general. If workers want to voluntarily get together and agree to bargain collectively, that's great. That's really just individuals engaging in voluntary contracts.
The issue is the way unions work (or at least my understanding, correct me if wrong) is that in many places once a union has taken hold, they actually get the right to prevent a non-unionized worker for working. That's absolutely crazy to me (and evil, and inefficient).
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Note: The above doesn't mean that Elon doesn't treat his workers like shit - he does. I wish people would see through the cult of personality with him, because so many workers have sustained injuries on the job or just burnt themselves out for someone who really doesn't care about them.
The thing with trying to save humanity from existential threats, is ethically speaking you can justify sacrificing as many actual humans for the cause as necessary.
But yeah, unions aren't the mechanism to fix that.
- seoaeu 5y ago> The issue is the way unions work (or at least my understanding, correct me if wrong) is that in many places once a union has taken hold, they actually get the right to prevent a non-unionized worker for working. Lots of states don't work that way (with "right to work" joining a union is always purely optional). The problem is that it empirically results in far worse outcomes for workers. With right to work unions are weaker because individuals can freeload off of the improvements in pay / working conditions achieved by a union without contributing back.
- ryathal 5y agoIt also provides a necessary check on unions, they have to provide a better service than base level employment. Many unions are taking dues while providing little to no benefits for large portions of their members.