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Because the GOP is ideologically opposed to price controls (except when it's in the form of subsidies to their state's pet industry of course). Something, somet

by rtkwe 6y ago

Because the GOP is ideologically opposed to price controls (except when it's in the form of subsidies to their state's pet industry of course). Something, something, free market distortions I think is the usual reason.

midasuni 6y ago
Dems control President, Senate and House
- rtkwe 6y ago
  You know about the filibuster right? Republicans can filibuster (force infinite 'debate' though modern rules don't require people to actually talk during a filibuster any more [0]) anything they don't want to pass and it's up to extremely centrist (barely) Democrats like Joe Manchin if the filibuster remains. Without removing that it takes 10 Republican votes to stop debate on any bill. There are some work arounds but they're limited to things that one person decides are sufficiently budget related enough to go through the reconciliation process that prevents filibusters. And that is a thrice a year option at most. [0] I get why since senators have all sorts of commitments to their time even counting just Senate business but it means a there's basically no cost to doing one where there was.
  - FentanylFloyd 6y ago
    > You know about the filibuster right? standard Dem excuse for being impotent and/or complicit
- stupendousyappi 6y ago
  Filibuster.
madeofpalk 6y ago
I think you’re misguided if you think this is a partisan issue. It’s an American issue where neither party has really adequately done anything about affordable healthcare and gouging like this.
- rtkwe 6y ago
  Everything that has been done or been tried has had to pass or be written under the specter of the filibuster though. It fundamentally limits the type of options that get through. The only major change in the last decade was Obamacare which is remarkably similar to the system passed under a the Republican Governorship of Mitt Romney. Democrats have some options they'd like to do that might help but cannot because of the filibuster. Reconciliation which is the only way around the filibuster guaranteed is pretty limited in scope due to the rules around it. Whether those could pass a vote if there was no filibuster is unknown because they all get completely blocked by Republican filibuster.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > The only major change in the last decade was Obamacare which is remarkably similar to the system passed under a the Republican Governorship of Mitt Romney. Which itself was a state level implementation of a program the insurance industry and national Republicans were talking up as an alternative in the 90s when, i the wake of the failure of Clinton’s healthcare reform, it seemed there was enough residual demand for something to be done in that regard nationally that they thought they needed to bring something to the table.
  - tdeck 6y ago
    The filibuster is a set of rules that both parties agreed to. One might well ask why Democrats in the senate agreed to this rule once again, knowing full well it would impede their ability to accomplish their publicly touted platform over the next few years.
    - bluGill 6y ago
      The obvious answer is eventually they will be out of power again and will want it. In fact until a few years ago they had it for judges, but they got rid of it when Republicans filibustered. Then when Trump nominated a judge they didn't like, well they discovered the filibuster was gone by their own doing and they were powerless.
kortilla 6y ago
Didn’t Trump pass some executive order clamping down on this very thing?
- IncRnd 6y ago
  He signed at least two of them, one to cover Medicare Part B and one to cover Medicare Part D.
- barbacoa 6y ago
  Biden stopped it before the EO went into effect. https://archive.is/eh5GV https://archive.is/eh5GV
  - WalterGR 6y ago
    To be clear, the Biden administration issued a regulatory rule freeze memorandum, and that's one of the things that was frozen. Has any decision since been made whether to implement the rule?

by rtkwe 6y ago

midasuni 6y ago

Dems control President, Senate and House

rtkwe 6y ago
You know about the filibuster right? Republicans can filibuster (force infinite 'debate' though modern rules don't require people to actually talk during a filibuster any more [0]) anything they don't want to pass and it's up to extremely centrist (barely) Democrats like Joe Manchin if the filibuster remains. Without removing that it takes 10 Republican votes to stop debate on any bill. There are some work arounds but they're limited to things that one person decides are sufficiently budget related enough to go through the reconciliation process that prevents filibusters. And that is a thrice a year option at most. [0] I get why since senators have all sorts of commitments to their time even counting just Senate business but it means a there's basically no cost to doing one where there was.
- FentanylFloyd 6y ago
  > You know about the filibuster right? standard Dem excuse for being impotent and/or complicit
stupendousyappi 6y ago
Filibuster.

madeofpalk 6y ago

I think you’re misguided if you think this is a partisan issue. It’s an American issue where neither party has really adequately done anything about affordable healthcare and gouging like this.

rtkwe 6y ago
Everything that has been done or been tried has had to pass or be written under the specter of the filibuster though. It fundamentally limits the type of options that get through. The only major change in the last decade was Obamacare which is remarkably similar to the system passed under a the Republican Governorship of Mitt Romney. Democrats have some options they'd like to do that might help but cannot because of the filibuster. Reconciliation which is the only way around the filibuster guaranteed is pretty limited in scope due to the rules around it. Whether those could pass a vote if there was no filibuster is unknown because they all get completely blocked by Republican filibuster.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > The only major change in the last decade was Obamacare which is remarkably similar to the system passed under a the Republican Governorship of Mitt Romney. Which itself was a state level implementation of a program the insurance industry and national Republicans were talking up as an alternative in the 90s when, i the wake of the failure of Clinton’s healthcare reform, it seemed there was enough residual demand for something to be done in that regard nationally that they thought they needed to bring something to the table.
- tdeck 6y ago
  The filibuster is a set of rules that both parties agreed to. One might well ask why Democrats in the senate agreed to this rule once again, knowing full well it would impede their ability to accomplish their publicly touted platform over the next few years.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    The obvious answer is eventually they will be out of power again and will want it. In fact until a few years ago they had it for judges, but they got rid of it when Republicans filibustered. Then when Trump nominated a judge they didn't like, well they discovered the filibuster was gone by their own doing and they were powerless.

kortilla 6y ago

Didn’t Trump pass some executive order clamping down on this very thing?

IncRnd 6y ago
He signed at least two of them, one to cover Medicare Part B and one to cover Medicare Part D.
barbacoa 6y ago
Biden stopped it before the EO went into effect. https://archive.is/eh5GV https://archive.is/eh5GV
- WalterGR 6y ago
  To be clear, the Biden administration issued a regulatory rule freeze memorandum, and that's one of the things that was frozen. Has any decision since been made whether to implement the rule?