I'm saying "civil" means not saying "armies of losers". More or less by definition. If you're not trying to build bridges with most people most of the time, w

I'm saying "civil" means not saying "armies of losers". More or less by definition. If you're not trying to build bridges with most people most of the time, what are you doing exactly? Again, my only point, is that your idea that calling them losers will do anything except trigger a double-down is hurting your own cause. Also, HN is a niche echo chamber similar to those others you mention, in many ways.