> But absolutely the only benefit it brings to a taxi is reduced labor costs. So if the capital cost is so high that you can't sell an $80-$100K self-driving ca

> But absolutely the only benefit it brings to a taxi is reduced labor costs. So if the capital cost is so high that you can't sell an $80-$100K self-driving car to moderately wealthy people, are you really going to be able to undercut Uber drivers? Say you can do it for $100k, and it looks wonky. That's a very small car market. But it's potentially a very large autonomous taxi market. > I'd just point out that even Toyota uses some sort of radar for its dynamic cruise control today. Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean "camera-only". Even low end cars have radars for collision avoidance. I meant "with cameras and front-facing RADAR, but no LIDAR / other expensive sensors". Though-- cameras need to be good enough to perceive everything radars miss, and once they're reliable enough at that for L4, the incremental value provided by a radar may be limited.