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In Denmark the halt of the AstraZeneca will delay vaccinations by approximately two weeks.

by Daho0n 6y ago

chrisseaton 6y ago
That seems like a really long time to me. Did you post this comment thinking it sounds short?
- throwawayboise 6y ago
  We've been dealing with the pandemic for over a year (it was originally going to be a few weeks to "flatten the curve"). What's 2 more weeks?
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > What's 2 more weeks? A few thousand dead bodies at the current rate.
    - alanfranz 6y ago
      Denmark has ~2500 deaths since the beginning of the pandemics. Your numbers are off.
      - chrisseaton 6y ago
        Context is across the whole of Europe. Still a couple of thousand of people dying every week in Europe.
        cinntaile 6y ago
        Yes your original reply was, but this specific childthread is talking about Denmark and how stopping the AZ vaccine pushes back their estimates by two weeks. This will likely cause preventable death in Denmark but those numbers are not in the thousands.
        morsch 6y ago
        AZ is not suspended in all of Europe. Most countries continue to use it, some of them -- France and Germany among then -- limiting the vaccine to people beyond a certain age (France: 55, Germany: 60), who are at a greater risk from Covid and who are also the next large group to be vaccinated.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > limiting the vaccine to people beyond a certain age (France: 55 Wait - I thought France said AztraZeneca wasn't effective for people over 65? Are they just giving it to people 55-65 therefore? And shouldn't those people have already been vaccinated by now anyway?
        morsch 6y ago
        Presumably you're being intentionally obtuse, but whatever. France (and Germany) initially said the recommendation for those groups was pending additional data on efficacy in those age groups, which was lacking in the phase 3 trials. This data has since been submitted and the recommendation extended to elderly people.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > initially said the recommendation for those groups was pending additional data on efficacy in those age groups Hang on that’s not not actually what the French said is it? They actually said there was data and that the data said it was ineffective.
        morsch 6y ago
        "Last month France approved use of the vaccine for under-65s only, citing lack of data for older people." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617
        chrisseaton 6y ago
- henrikeh 6y ago
  For what it is worth, I read it as a neutral statement: it is literally just the official estimate of the impact in terms of time.

In Denmark the halt of the AstraZeneca will delay vaccinations by approximately two weeks.

by Daho0n 6y ago

In Denmark the halt of the AstraZeneca will delay vaccinations by approximately two weeks.

chrisseaton 6y ago

That seems like a really long time to me. Did you post this comment thinking it sounds short?

throwawayboise 6y ago
We've been dealing with the pandemic for over a year (it was originally going to be a few weeks to "flatten the curve"). What's 2 more weeks?
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > What's 2 more weeks? A few thousand dead bodies at the current rate.
  - alanfranz 6y ago
    Denmark has ~2500 deaths since the beginning of the pandemics. Your numbers are off.
    - chrisseaton 6y ago
      Context is across the whole of Europe. Still a couple of thousand of people dying every week in Europe.
      - cinntaile 6y ago
        Yes your original reply was, but this specific childthread is talking about Denmark and how stopping the AZ vaccine pushes back their estimates by two weeks. This will likely cause preventable death in Denmark but those numbers are not in the thousands.
      - morsch 6y ago
        AZ is not suspended in all of Europe. Most countries continue to use it, some of them -- France and Germany among then -- limiting the vaccine to people beyond a certain age (France: 55, Germany: 60), who are at a greater risk from Covid and who are also the next large group to be vaccinated.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > limiting the vaccine to people beyond a certain age (France: 55 Wait - I thought France said AztraZeneca wasn't effective for people over 65? Are they just giving it to people 55-65 therefore? And shouldn't those people have already been vaccinated by now anyway?
        morsch 6y ago
        Presumably you're being intentionally obtuse, but whatever. France (and Germany) initially said the recommendation for those groups was pending additional data on efficacy in those age groups, which was lacking in the phase 3 trials. This data has since been submitted and the recommendation extended to elderly people.
        chrisseaton 6y ago
        > initially said the recommendation for those groups was pending additional data on efficacy in those age groups Hang on that’s not not actually what the French said is it? They actually said there was data and that the data said it was ineffective.
        morsch 6y ago
        "Last month France approved use of the vaccine for under-65s only, citing lack of data for older people." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56242617
        chrisseaton 6y ago
henrikeh 6y ago
For what it is worth, I read it as a neutral statement: it is literally just the official estimate of the impact in terms of time.