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The problem is, it's not clear that camera-only and relatively modest processing can even handle fully autonomous highway driving in good weather. So, if you n
by mlyle 6y ago
The problem is, it's not clear that camera-only and relatively modest processing can even handle fully autonomous highway driving in good weather. So, if you need a very expensive sensor package, the only large market available is taxis.
- ghaff 6y ago>if you need a very expensive sensor package, the only large market available is taxis. But absolutely the only benefit it brings to a taxi is reduced labor costs. So if the capital cost is so high that you can't sell an $80-$100K self-driving car to moderately wealthy people, are you really going to be able to undercut Uber drivers? (And labor costs don't go to zero anyway as someone needs to clean and maintain the vehicles.) >camera-only I'd just point out that even Toyota uses some sort of radar for its dynamic cruise control today.
- mlyle 6y ago> But absolutely the only benefit it brings to a taxi is reduced labor costs. So if the capital cost is so high that you can't sell an $80-$100K self-driving car to moderately wealthy people, are you really going to be able to undercut Uber drivers? Say you can do it for $100k, and it looks wonky. That's a very small car market. But it's potentially a very large autonomous taxi market. > I'd just point out that even Toyota uses some sort of radar for its dynamic cruise control today. Yes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean "camera-only". Even low end cars have radars for collision avoidance. I meant "with cameras and front-facing RADAR, but no LIDAR / other expensive sensors". Though-- cameras need to be good enough to perceive everything radars miss, and once they're reliable enough at that for L4, the incremental value provided by a radar may be limited.