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Getting a warrant to spy on your neighbours wife would be like robbing a bank and leaving a note for the cops. It's literally a crime done right in front of th

by jariel 6y ago

Getting a warrant to spy on your neighbours wife would be like robbing a bank and leaving a note for the cops. It's literally a crime done right in front of the police, with official records and signatures for you to be prosecuted. The Justice system has all sorts of power. A cop can arrest you, right now, for no reason at all - which is totally against the law, but he could do it, you'd have to file a redress and hopefully they'd be charged. So the issue isn't really about encryption, it's about the integrity of our systems. We'll get 10x further by improving processes than otherwise. Technology can help, but it's secondary.

intricatedetail 6y ago
This all only works in theory. In reality police in the UK is mostly useless if you tried to report a crime. They won't touch anything unless it gets them PR points or you present all evidence, track the perpetrators and so on and still they may drop it because the judge wouldn't give them time so why bother. It's a problem that media don't talk about.
- azalemeth 6y ago
  This is true with with minor crime. It's not true at all of violent crime, or serious cases; if you're knocked down by a drunk driver, the police absolutely are very good to you and do -- eventually -- get there. Minor theft? Expect less. Copyright infringement? Hope you are a big player, otherwise piss off...
  - intricatedetail 6y ago
    From my experience I disagree, even violent crime not always gets followed up. It's usually down to who committed it, who reports it, what is the chance of public outrage if ignored etc. It is maybe different in other parts of the country, sure.
  - Talanes 6y ago
    Mike Birbiglia has a whole one man show centered around being ordered to pay damages on the drunk driver who hit him - due to a sloppily written police report.
damagednoob 6y ago
> It's literally a crime done right in front of the police, with official records and signatures for you to be prosecuted. How does the party know they have been wronged? Are they notified that someone has been given access to their browsing history?

by jariel 6y ago

intricatedetail 6y ago

This all only works in theory. In reality police in the UK is mostly useless if you tried to report a crime. They won't touch anything unless it gets them PR points or you present all evidence, track the perpetrators and so on and still they may drop it because the judge wouldn't give them time so why bother. It's a problem that media don't talk about.

azalemeth 6y ago
This is true with with minor crime. It's not true at all of violent crime, or serious cases; if you're knocked down by a drunk driver, the police absolutely are very good to you and do -- eventually -- get there. Minor theft? Expect less. Copyright infringement? Hope you are a big player, otherwise piss off...
- intricatedetail 6y ago
  From my experience I disagree, even violent crime not always gets followed up. It's usually down to who committed it, who reports it, what is the chance of public outrage if ignored etc. It is maybe different in other parts of the country, sure.
- Talanes 6y ago
  Mike Birbiglia has a whole one man show centered around being ordered to pay damages on the drunk driver who hit him - due to a sloppily written police report.

damagednoob 6y ago

> It's literally a crime done right in front of the police, with official records and signatures for you to be prosecuted. How does the party know they have been wronged? Are they notified that someone has been given access to their browsing history?