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Elon is selling a "Full Self Driving car" that is not full self driving at all by Tesla's own admission. It isn't doing the thing it is advertised to do. https

• ajross 6y ago
  > Calling an L2 car "full self driving" is incredibly irresponsible I repeat: this is an argument about semantics, further obscured by the use of jargon, and it does nothing to inform a discussion about what autonomy features are being offered on existing cars, nor about what the market wants, nor even about whether or not those features are safe or effective. It's just words. If you want to have a discussion about whether or not Tesla's self driving feature is safe or not, you need to come with evidence about safety. You can't just yell about "L2", no one cares anymore.
  • davidcbc 6y ago
    Could you be more pedantic? I'm not even the one who brought up L2 in the first place. I used the same jargon as the person I was responding to. HN is a technical forum, if you're going to have a discussion about autonomous vehicles on a technical forum then technical terms should be fair game. If I'm having this discussion elsewhere then I'll explain it differently. But fine, if you want to be pedantic: Calling a car that cannot drive itself without human intervention a "fully self driving car" is incredibly irresponsible.