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Tesla's cars can drive everywhere (although not always perfectly), even in unfamiliar situations, while Waymo can drive only on a very small geofenced area with

by Geee 6y ago

Tesla's cars can drive everywhere (although not always perfectly), even in unfamiliar situations, while Waymo can drive only on a very small geofenced area with restricted routes within the area. Waymo mispresents their performance by having selected only those routes that they can drive in. It's the oldest trick in the book of cheating. Waymo is nowhere near level 4 on all roads. Waymo hasn't been able to expand their drivable area in years. This is their coverage map: https://i.redd.it/yc80awv2o3z51.png https://i.redd.it/yc80awv2o3z51.png

mlyle 6y ago
Watch this entire video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI Tesla would kill you half the time making this unprotected left turn. Waymo can make unprotected left turns and have never killed or injured anyone or even bent metal in this situation. :P It's not a particularly challenging left turn. And the goal is to kill you less than .0001% of the time making left turns. Yes, Waymo tries to avoid them in route planning, but it still takes them if necessary.
- Geee 6y ago
  I have seen that. That is a particular edge case for some reason, which will be fixed soon. Nothing to worry about. Because Tesla's are able to drive everywhere, there's way more ways for it to fail.
  - mlyle 6y ago
    So, you believe in "the next update", we'll go from ~50% reliability on a contended, unprotected left turn to 99.999+%?
    - Geee 6y ago
      I didn't say "the next update". Maybe a couple of updates. However, the next update, which is v9 and should be out this month, will be a major one.