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Level 4 autonomy is still a far off sci-fi fantasy at this point. The real future for self driving is high quality level 3 technology like Autopilot and openpil
by aphextron 6y ago
Level 4 autonomy is still a far off sci-fi fantasy at this point. The real future for self driving is high quality level 3 technology like Autopilot and openpilot that will solve the 90% case of people wanting highway autonomy and stop-and-go traffic automation. That stuff is already here, and works incredibly well. Once it trickles down to the economy price point, no one is ever going to want to buy a car without it. But robo taxis are not happening until we solve artificial general intelligence.
- blackoil 6y agoProblem is humans, we'll treat L3 as L4 and get distracted enough by that funny video or a phone call. Which brings the ques is L3 really better than whatever L Toyota is at?
- toomuchtodo 6y agoHumans already drive distracted (phone calls, texting, eating, makeup), no automation required. If the automation improves the accident and death rate, it’s still a win.
- Balgair 6y agoOne solution to bridge the gap between 'mostly' self driving and 'totally' self driving is to increase the safety systems. Currently, safety systems for the people in the car are very good. But for people outside the car, they are very bad. If you can make it such that the car is very safe for all the people in a possible accident, then maybe the AI problem won't be such a problem. Granted, that's a hard problem too, but we're pretty good with the theorems and modeling that goes into safety. It's more of an economics problem, not a design one.
- toomuchtodo 6y agoAgreed, but the "safer for the outside" systems aren't (in my opinion) automation; they're regulations and policy to lower vehicle mass (more mass + velocity = more potential harm) and to be more antagonistic to vehicular traffic to force it to behave with greater care [1] [2] (regardless of whom it in control of the vehicle) around vulnerable stakeholders such as pedestrians and bicyclists. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_calming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_calming [2] https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pedestrians/traffic-calming.shtml https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pedestrians/traffic-calmin...
- airstrike 6y agoOnly to the extent that automation doesn't increase the level / frequency of that distraction.
- hnburnsy 6y agoDoes Level 4 necessarily exclude any self driving infrastructure support?