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There aren't known blood clot side effects from Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and J&J. These vaccines are intended to have effects, since that's how your immune sys

There aren't known blood clot side effects from Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and J&J. These vaccines are intended to have effects, since that's how your immune system is stimulated to produce a reaction, hence reactive vaccines, but there aren't blood clot stories hitting the headlines. The blood clot stories hitting the headlines are doing a disservice. If one out of a million of something happens, the human cognitive bias will make it feel like it's likelier than it is. .. or do Europeans prefer to be locked down for the rest of their lives? People should ignore the news media and take the vaccine for God's sake, it hasn't killed 40% of the UK, has it ?

mancerayder 6y ago
Downvote all you want, it does seem to me that people are simultaneously anti-vax and pro-lockdown. To wit, here is an article showing how rare the clots are: "German regulators said they had received 31 reports of rare blood clots in the head in recipients of the AstraZeneca vaccine and nine deaths up to March 29, roughly doubling Cooke said the EMA will include the Germany cases in its review "and they will form part of the ongoing evaluation that the committee is undertaking, as will any additional cases that are reported from other countries and regions.” Based on the numbers reported to the agency so far, there have been 4.8 cases of the rare blood clots per million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine administered, she said." (https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210331-eu-says-no-evidence-to-restrict-astrazeneca-jab-use https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210331-eu-says-no-evide...)
- tonfa 6y ago
  "Based on the numbers reported to the agency so far" The key word is "so far", the article explains that Germany saw the number double since the reporting. https://www.ft.com/content/d5cd63c6-af01-4d29-a5e5-b69ade4f3803 https://www.ft.com/content/d5cd63c6-af01-4d29-a5e5-b69ade4f3... Reports it as 10x the normal occurence of 3 per 100k. (and I assume that's before doing further slicing, probably slicing for younger women would show even more impact?). I'm all for vaccine but it's a tight rope to have a successful rollout in EU: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-issue-wont-go-away/618451/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazene... Maybe they could consider reserving the non-AZ doses to the most likely to be affected demographic. (personally I'm lucky enough to be in a country that's not planning on using the AZ vaccine so there's no question, but rest of EU is different)

mancerayder 6y ago

Downvote all you want, it does seem to me that people are simultaneously anti-vax and pro-lockdown. To wit, here is an article showing how rare the clots are: "German regulators said they had received 31 reports of rare blood clots in the head in recipients of the AstraZeneca vaccine and nine deaths up to March 29, roughly doubling Cooke said the EMA will include the Germany cases in its review "and they will form part of the ongoing evaluation that the committee is undertaking, as will any additional cases that are reported from other countries and regions.” Based on the numbers reported to the agency so far, there have been 4.8 cases of the rare blood clots per million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine administered, she said." (https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210331-eu-says-no-evidence-to-restrict-astrazeneca-jab-use https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210331-eu-says-no-evide...)

tonfa 6y ago
"Based on the numbers reported to the agency so far" The key word is "so far", the article explains that Germany saw the number double since the reporting. https://www.ft.com/content/d5cd63c6-af01-4d29-a5e5-b69ade4f3803 https://www.ft.com/content/d5cd63c6-af01-4d29-a5e5-b69ade4f3... Reports it as 10x the normal occurence of 3 per 100k. (and I assume that's before doing further slicing, probably slicing for younger women would show even more impact?). I'm all for vaccine but it's a tight rope to have a successful rollout in EU: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-blood-clot-issue-wont-go-away/618451/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/astrazene... Maybe they could consider reserving the non-AZ doses to the most likely to be affected demographic. (personally I'm lucky enough to be in a country that's not planning on using the AZ vaccine so there's no question, but rest of EU is different)