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So you're saying that it was incompatible British Values that caused the UK media to lie about what the EU was doing. So that list of 100+ lies printed by the
by Jonnax 6y ago
So you're saying that it was incompatible British Values that caused the UK media to lie about what the EU was doing.
So that list of 100+ lies printed by the UK Press was fine, as it was an effort to manipulate people to have a negative opinion of the EU.
Since those good reasons weren't enough to get what the Brexiters wanted?
- slibhb 6y agoClearly lying is not good. I don't have strong opinions about whether the linked list can be accurately described as lies. My strong opinion is that the differences here are about values not facts, and those differences are real.
- Jonnax 6y ago"Pubs, darts – Commission plans to outlaws darts in Pubs, Jun 1993" Ah right. So this isn't a true/false statement. But a statement of values. Thanks for clearing that up
- slibhb 6y agoIf you want to go through that list, investigate every claim, and explain how some of them are completely made up, be my guest. I doubt many of them are completely made up. I think most of them are exaggerations based on something. Almost all headlines fit that description. My point is not so much that "no one lies, ever" but that lying is beside the point. The differences that lead people to prefer to leave the EU are not factual, they're questions of values. If you don't see that, fine, but you're missing something.
- Jonnax 6y agoRight. So the EU is not allowed to create a site to inform their ministers to correct these lies. Because the EU have to play by some rules you've made up.
- slibhb 6y agoQuote where I said "the EU is not allowed to create a site". Also, quote where I said "there's no reason to want to remain in the EU". The hostility in all of your responses is, um, interesting.