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This story itself seems to be perpetuating a small false hood by captioning the leading photo as, “Egypt’s first female ship’s captain”. If you read the articl
by pmorici 6y ago
This story itself seems to be perpetuating a small false hood by captioning the leading photo as, “Egypt’s first female ship’s captain”.
If you read the article it then says she was the first female to be accepted to Egypt’s merchant navy school and in the second to last sentence says she is currently the rank of fist mate though will be a Captain soon if she passes her exam. She is also clearly wearing the rank of fist mate in the photo billing her as Egypt’s first captain.
This is why people have lost faith in the news. They can’t even get a basic fact right and manage to contradict themselves in the same story no less.
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- implements 6y agoIt’s possible she has a Masters Ticket (ie is qualified to Captain a vessel) while working as First / Chief Mate - it’s quite common as it would allow her to take command in an emergency if the Captain was incapacitated.
- delecti 6y agoIt's possible to be a First Mate without that credential? I'll readily admit to being extremely ignorant about shipping, but I always imagined the position being akin to the US Vice President, in that part of the job description is to take over from the captain as necessary.
- realityking 6y agoThere is a specific Chief Mate license (according to STCW) but indeed commonly the Chief Mate holds a Master license, it’s just not required for minimum safe manning. (If it was, than the Manning regulations wouldn’t be met anymore when the captain is incapacitated) At least here in Germany it only take ~3 years of sea service to progress from officer of the watch to master - but no one will entrust you with a major cargo or passenger vessel with that little experience.
- neogodless 6y ago> and captained the Aida IV when it became the first vessel to navigate the newly-expanded Suez Canal in 2015. At the time, she was the youngest and first female Egyptian captain to cross the waterway. It's a bit confusing. From another linked article[0] > “One has to spend many years at sea, studying and taking exams before reaching this level. > I graduated in 2013 and got an MBA, then I was promoted from second officer to first officer, and now I am a captain,” she added. Still, I think this is... minutiae compared to the larger issue of smear campaign targeting oppressed classes of people. Perhaps she can be acting captain before getting the official rank? [0] https://www.arabnews.com/node/1833276/media https://www.arabnews.com/node/1833276/media
- pmorici 6y agoI’d guess it is a poor translation of Arabic. ربان Can be translated to “captain” but it means the person piloting the ship which is part of the duties of the first mate when the captain isn’t at the helm. Saying that she piloted the ship through the canal would be consistent with the rest of the facts presented. The point is that the antidote to distasteful fake news isn’t good intentioned fake news it’s factual news. So wether this error was unintended or driven by their own biases to write an overwhelmingly positive story to counter the false one it manages to perpetuate the problem.
- Maursault 6y agoThere could be equivocation of a military rank [1] and a mariner license [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(naval) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_(naval) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_captain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_captain