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Remember that Egypt is a hopelessly corrupt developing country. It doesn't really matter who is at fault. The matter would be decided by an Egyptian court where

Remember that Egypt is a hopelessly corrupt developing country. It doesn't really matter who is at fault. The matter would be decided by an Egyptian court where the judge will rubberstamp whatever narrative and claim the government wants to present. Remember that Egypt nationalized (stole) the canal in the first place from the UK. The only reason they were not bombed to oblivion was that it suited US goals of further humiliating former European imperial powers after WWII. Egypt operates tha canal as spoils of war and their only real concern would be if shippers begun considering the risks of relying on the Suez authorities higher than going through the Horn of Africa.

einpoklum 6y ago
> nationalized (stole) Ah, still salty over European powers losing their imperial holdings? > The only reason they were not bombed to oblivion ... yeah, I guess so.
- vesinisa 6y ago
  I am only saying that if the canal was still UK property we could probably at least rely on the courts to impartially decide who is at fault. People don't realize things don't operate the same way in 3rd world countries as they do in the West. Now the fault lies at where ever Egypt says it does. The only recourse is to hope they are lenient enough to not spook other maritime freight operators.
  - IAmEveryone 6y ago
    I doubt Suez Canal disputes are adjudicated by some local court out in the the desert. It's either some special tribunal with at least some internationally recognised expertise. Or, most likely, a binding arbitration committee at Loyd's of London.
  - ignoramous 6y ago
    > I am only saying that if the canal was still UK property we could probably at least rely on the courts to impartially decide who is at fault. People don't realize things don't operate the same way in 3rd world countries as they do in the West. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Imprisonment_and_extradition_proceedings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Imprisonment_an... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp ...
- IAmEveryone 6y ago
  Hey now! As a European, we've gone through a lot of grief due to Britain's wish to feel special. Let's try being consistent, at least: the British are salty over losing an Empire. They're also the only ones where that term is appropriate. The French are fine since they got to keep Camus and Couscous. The Belgians never did any colonialising, brutal or otherwise. No, sir. Nothing to see here. If you insist otherwise, yours must be a Heart of Darkness. The Germans are sorry about that Genocide, as well.
paganel 6y ago
Not sure that a neo-colonialist viewpoint such as yours brings anything constructive to the discussion.
joshuaissac 6y ago
> Egypt nationalized (stole) the canal Nasser paid full compensation for shareholders based on the share price of the company on the Paris Stock Exchange, as he had said he would before the nationalisation.[1] So this was not much different to the nationalisation of companies in the UK that had been happening around the same period,[2] or to the compulsory sales that happen even now in the US.[3] > only reason they were not bombed to oblivion was that it suited US goals There was also the Soviet threat against the UK and its allies in the war. 1. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/suez-affair-highlighted-britain-s-fall-from-major-world-power-1.101871 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/suez-affair-highlighted-brit... 2. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zsd68mn/revision/6 https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zsd68mn/revision/6 3. https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-chinese-firm-to-sell-u-s-hotel-software-company-11583521254 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-chinese-firm-to-se...
Banana699 6y ago
The only reason Egypt was not bombed into oblivion is that the colonial powers tried a weak ass illegal move in 1956 that spectacularly and humiliatingly failed, after triumphantly killing a bunch of civilians off course. I'm not a fan of Arab governments but this comment reads like an angsty 14-year-old nostalgic for the empire they learned about in school.

einpoklum 6y ago

> nationalized (stole) Ah, still salty over European powers losing their imperial holdings? > The only reason they were not bombed to oblivion ... yeah, I guess so.

vesinisa 6y ago
I am only saying that if the canal was still UK property we could probably at least rely on the courts to impartially decide who is at fault. People don't realize things don't operate the same way in 3rd world countries as they do in the West. Now the fault lies at where ever Egypt says it does. The only recourse is to hope they are lenient enough to not spook other maritime freight operators.
- IAmEveryone 6y ago
  I doubt Suez Canal disputes are adjudicated by some local court out in the the desert. It's either some special tribunal with at least some internationally recognised expertise. Or, most likely, a binding arbitration committee at Loyd's of London.
- ignoramous 6y ago
  > I am only saying that if the canal was still UK property we could probably at least rely on the courts to impartially decide who is at fault. People don't realize things don't operate the same way in 3rd world countries as they do in the West. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Imprisonment_and_extradition_proceedings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Imprisonment_an... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_George_Floyd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp ...
IAmEveryone 6y ago
Hey now! As a European, we've gone through a lot of grief due to Britain's wish to feel special. Let's try being consistent, at least: the British are salty over losing an Empire. They're also the only ones where that term is appropriate. The French are fine since they got to keep Camus and Couscous. The Belgians never did any colonialising, brutal or otherwise. No, sir. Nothing to see here. If you insist otherwise, yours must be a Heart of Darkness. The Germans are sorry about that Genocide, as well.

paganel 6y ago

Not sure that a neo-colonialist viewpoint such as yours brings anything constructive to the discussion.

joshuaissac 6y ago

> Egypt nationalized (stole) the canal Nasser paid full compensation for shareholders based on the share price of the company on the Paris Stock Exchange, as he had said he would before the nationalisation.[1] So this was not much different to the nationalisation of companies in the UK that had been happening around the same period,[2] or to the compulsory sales that happen even now in the US.[3] > only reason they were not bombed to oblivion was that it suited US goals There was also the Soviet threat against the UK and its allies in the war. 1. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/suez-affair-highlighted-britain-s-fall-from-major-world-power-1.101871 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/suez-affair-highlighted-brit... 2. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zsd68mn/revision/6 https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zsd68mn/revision/6 3. https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-chinese-firm-to-sell-u-s-hotel-software-company-11583521254 https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-chinese-firm-to-se...

Banana699 6y ago

The only reason Egypt was not bombed into oblivion is that the colonial powers tried a weak ass illegal move in 1956 that spectacularly and humiliatingly failed, after triumphantly killing a bunch of civilians off course. I'm not a fan of Arab governments but this comment reads like an angsty 14-year-old nostalgic for the empire they learned about in school.