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Twitch itself replaced HitboxTV, which was pretty much in Twitch's situation today: a de facto monopoly, and technical issues (they offered either the resource

Twitch itself replaced HitboxTV, which was pretty much in Twitch's situation today: a de facto monopoly, and technical issues (they offered either the resource hungry Flashplayer or a semi-broken HTML5 implementation). SO what will disrupt Twitch is the same thing as usual: a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out.

rwmj 6y ago
> a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out Interestingly Youtube has 2 out of 3 - greedy company running ads every 3 minutes, and constant full screen badgering about cookies and sign-ups. I wonder what the new tech will be that will complete the set?
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  You don't think that PeerTube can do it ?
  - lwansbrough 6y ago
    End users don’t care about decentralization — it’s not a feature, it’s an implementation detail. Unless PeerTube beats competitors on UX (both for viewers and creators), why use it?
    - BlueTemplar 6y ago
      Creators have been pissed off about ContentID for nearly a decade now, but until recently there wasn't a good enough alternative to YouTube.
      - rwmj 6y ago
        PeerTube doesn't even help there, it just means that innocent end users will be hit with DMCA notices. In a way it's worse than BitTorrent because at least with BT you could make some kind of argument that end users knew they were doing something illegal (even if that argument was dubious). Now you'll have people visiting a website that looks a lot like Youtube and getting DMCA notices because of some background music in a video they were watching. (For the avoidance of doubt, I think PeerTube is great technology and I hope it wins, I just don't think it has any chance of supplanting Youtube any time soon).
        ddtaylor 6y ago
        Has anyone visiting PeerTube been hit with a DMCA notice? I'm curious please provide any links you have to articles.
        rwmj 6y ago
        I doubt it's popular enough for any of these parasite legal companies to bother right now. That can change if it becomes popular. No I don't have any links.
        BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Depending on the country, getting hit with a DMCA notice carries more or less weight. The ones sending the notice might also need to be very clear about what you did wrong. And a notarized letter is less easily prone to spam and abuse than a message inside YouTube's system. And you'll be probably able to win in court if the claim is spurious. Much better than the current situation with YouTube's ContentID where the presumption of innocence is routinely violated, not to mention all the other issues : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIn90HTqKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIn90HTqKs (Also, the way the current ContentID might be violating European laws deriving from Article 13, but I haven't really been following that lately...)
- Causality1 6y ago
  Oh that's an easy one. The new tech is when YouTube invents a way to prevent adblocking.

rwmj 6y ago

> a combo of a greedy company, a user experience that gets worse and worse, and a new tech coming out Interestingly Youtube has 2 out of 3 - greedy company running ads every 3 minutes, and constant full screen badgering about cookies and sign-ups. I wonder what the new tech will be that will complete the set?

BlueTemplar 6y ago
You don't think that PeerTube can do it ?
- lwansbrough 6y ago
  End users don’t care about decentralization — it’s not a feature, it’s an implementation detail. Unless PeerTube beats competitors on UX (both for viewers and creators), why use it?
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    Creators have been pissed off about ContentID for nearly a decade now, but until recently there wasn't a good enough alternative to YouTube.
    - rwmj 6y ago
      PeerTube doesn't even help there, it just means that innocent end users will be hit with DMCA notices. In a way it's worse than BitTorrent because at least with BT you could make some kind of argument that end users knew they were doing something illegal (even if that argument was dubious). Now you'll have people visiting a website that looks a lot like Youtube and getting DMCA notices because of some background music in a video they were watching. (For the avoidance of doubt, I think PeerTube is great technology and I hope it wins, I just don't think it has any chance of supplanting Youtube any time soon).
      - ddtaylor 6y ago
        Has anyone visiting PeerTube been hit with a DMCA notice? I'm curious please provide any links you have to articles.
        rwmj 6y ago
        I doubt it's popular enough for any of these parasite legal companies to bother right now. That can change if it becomes popular. No I don't have any links.
      - BlueTemplar 6y ago
        Depending on the country, getting hit with a DMCA notice carries more or less weight. The ones sending the notice might also need to be very clear about what you did wrong. And a notarized letter is less easily prone to spam and abuse than a message inside YouTube's system. And you'll be probably able to win in court if the claim is spurious. Much better than the current situation with YouTube's ContentID where the presumption of innocence is routinely violated, not to mention all the other issues : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIn90HTqKs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trIn90HTqKs (Also, the way the current ContentID might be violating European laws deriving from Article 13, but I haven't really been following that lately...)
Causality1 6y ago
Oh that's an easy one. The new tech is when YouTube invents a way to prevent adblocking.