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I've always wondered, doesn't tilling wms make tmux redundant for local development?

phist_mcgee 6y ago
Or even terminal clients with split panes such as iterm. You can even configure it to autoconnect to remote servers on a per profile basis.
- davidb_ 6y ago
  But if you want that remote session to persist, tmux (or screen) are still super useful.
celrod 6y ago
I like having the familiar emacs keybindings to navigate the terminal, e.g. to be able to scroll quickly, search, and copy/paste without needing to take my hands off the keyboard. I'm sure there's some terminal emulator that supports that...any recommendations/suggestions/configs?
davidb_ 6y ago
I think so, and my evidence for that is I've been using tmux a lot less as I've done more of my development work locally. BUT - it still has plenty of utility when working on remote machines. So, I still use it every day. I'm just not constantly working in it.
opan 6y ago
I've used tmux within a tiling wm for years. I never really understood this view that you don't need both, but it is common. I don't want a bunch of separate terminal windows. I lay out my tiles around having one main one, and then from there I split into tmux panes and windows. It feels neat and dense this way. I have a keybind to jump to my named terminal with tmux. It's easy to open a new tmux window with a few keypresses. It's easy to work with the scrollback. The layout stays consistent. I feel naked without tmux. I naturally want to do various tmux actions. It's maybe like pinned vs unpinned browser tabs. If I have a terminal without tmux running, it feels like I'll close it soon, so I don't get attached, and it bugs me a bit the longer it's open. I still use split windows inside vim and emacs as well. Some say it's silly or redundant, but they all work a bit differently and have their own functions. Emacs can scroll the "other window", vim has an extra clipboard.
asdff 6y ago
You can write scripts to automatically open up tmux windows to certain directories/files/software arranged and named however you like. it can be handy to open an entire development workspace for a project with a single command. I'm not sure if other tools like i3 can do this.
- ducktective 6y ago
  https://github.com/JonnyHaystack/i3-resurrect https://github.com/JonnyHaystack/i3-resurrect
fctorial 6y ago
Memory usage? 20 terminal emulators will consume half GB of memory.
- hollerith 6y ago
  I don't understand: what in your opinion is in most of that 500 megs or so of memory? the executable file is read-only, so the OS loads only 1 copy of it into memory, which is shared by the 20 processes.
  - fctorial 6y ago
    That's 500 megs is after accounting for that.

Or even terminal clients with split panes such as iterm. You can even configure it to autoconnect to remote servers on a per profile basis.

davidb_ 6y ago
But if you want that remote session to persist, tmux (or screen) are still super useful.

celrod 6y ago

I like having the familiar emacs keybindings to navigate the terminal, e.g. to be able to scroll quickly, search, and copy/paste without needing to take my hands off the keyboard. I'm sure there's some terminal emulator that supports that...any recommendations/suggestions/configs?

davidb_ 6y ago

I think so, and my evidence for that is I've been using tmux a lot less as I've done more of my development work locally. BUT - it still has plenty of utility when working on remote machines. So, I still use it every day. I'm just not constantly working in it.

opan 6y ago

I've used tmux within a tiling wm for years. I never really understood this view that you don't need both, but it is common. I don't want a bunch of separate terminal windows. I lay out my tiles around having one main one, and then from there I split into tmux panes and windows. It feels neat and dense this way. I have a keybind to jump to my named terminal with tmux. It's easy to open a new tmux window with a few keypresses. It's easy to work with the scrollback. The layout stays consistent. I feel naked without tmux. I naturally want to do various tmux actions. It's maybe like pinned vs unpinned browser tabs. If I have a terminal without tmux running, it feels like I'll close it soon, so I don't get attached, and it bugs me a bit the longer it's open. I still use split windows inside vim and emacs as well. Some say it's silly or redundant, but they all work a bit differently and have their own functions. Emacs can scroll the "other window", vim has an extra clipboard.

asdff 6y ago

You can write scripts to automatically open up tmux windows to certain directories/files/software arranged and named however you like. it can be handy to open an entire development workspace for a project with a single command. I'm not sure if other tools like i3 can do this.

ducktective 6y ago
https://github.com/JonnyHaystack/i3-resurrect https://github.com/JonnyHaystack/i3-resurrect

fctorial 6y ago

Memory usage? 20 terminal emulators will consume half GB of memory.

hollerith 6y ago
I don't understand: what in your opinion is in most of that 500 megs or so of memory? the executable file is read-only, so the OS loads only 1 copy of it into memory, which is shared by the 20 processes.
- fctorial 6y ago
  That's 500 megs is after accounting for that.